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  • Is the EM5300 really that bad?

    Howdy team

    So, I've had an EM5300 for just over a year, and it's dying, and awaiting a replacement from sunbeam.

    For reference, it's started purging water from the steam wand whilst extracting coffee, and sometimes also leaking water from behind the front panel whilst extracting.... Yikes. Shot extraction quality has dropped, assuming due to loss pressure of pressure.

    My quandary is, do I keep and use the replacement, or sell it new and unopened?

    I've not been unhappy with machine, sure it's pretty lo-fi, but I've been able to make some decent coffee with practice and refinement of technique.
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    The EM5300 seems to be universally canned on these forums, but no one actually says why it's a poor machine. Anyone care to elaborate?

    If I sell and buy something else, what do I buy?

    Can't see myself getting more than $350-400 for the sunbeam...if that...

    Thoughts, feelings, emotions....?

    Help.

    Thanks! Grant.

  • #2
    The portafilter is aluminium, the metal parts of the group head are thermally isolated from the heat producing parts of the machine, this adds up to piss-poor thermal stability. There are other areas of lackluster performance that I can't think of off the top of my head. Overall it's just a poorly executed version of the Breville BES870.

    I would sell it BNIB and buy a BES870, if it's a combo appliance you want. There's other better options if it's not a combo appliance type machine you want.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
      The portafilter is aluminium, the metal parts of the group head are thermally isolated from the heat producing parts of the machine, this adds up to piss-poor thermal stability. There are other areas of lackluster performance that I can't think of off the top of my head. Overall it's just a poorly executed version of the Breville BES870.

      I would sell it BNIB and buy a BES870, if it's a combo appliance you want. There's other better options if it's not a combo appliance type machine you want.
      Cool, thanks.

      Not sold on a combo setup.

      It was between this and the bes870 at the time.

      Have used the BES920 a few times, would be very happy with that.

      Open to suggestions in the $800 realm.

      Cheers.

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      • #4
        We now get into all the normal questions, how many of what type of coffees do you make a day? Do you care if it's new it second hand? Do you care if it's an appliance like a Breville or a studier European machine? Do you care how big it is physically? Are you happy for it to take a little while to warn up?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
          We now get into all the normal questions, how many of what type of coffees do you make a day? Do you care if it's new it second hand? Do you care if it's an appliance like a Breville or a studier European machine? Do you care how big it is physically? Are you happy for it to take a little while to warn up?
          3-4 per day.

          Espresso and milk based - flat whites/cappuccino

          Second hand is fine, as long as it's serviceable.

          Don't care about brand.

          No bigger than a BS920 + grinder.

          Warm up time can be slower, as long as once it's there it's long and strong... 😁

          Thanks.

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          • #6
            Forgot to ask your location

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            • #7
              Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
              Forgot to ask your location
              Melbourne.

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              • #8
                There's but much on offer second hand wise at the moment, perhaps the current economic climate has people delaying upgrading ask they're not selling yet either.

                This is about all I could find close to your budget:

                https://coffeesnobs.com.au/forum/mar...50mm-flat-burr

                https://coffeesnobs.com.au/forum/mar...up-with-spares

                The BES870 might be your best option in the short term.

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                • #9
                  I returned my EM5300 under warranty and upgraded, paying the difference, to a Breville Barista Express. The Sunbeam was leaking quite a bit from the back, unsure exactly why.

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                  • #10
                    The EM5300 is a piece of crap. Such a shame that all the new Sunbeam models are so bad when the EM69xx and EM7xxx machines were such good value for what they were. Sunbeam have clearly made a business decision to go down the ‘planned obsolescence’ road and only make throw away pieces of junk. I encourage everyone to avoid buying a new Sunbeam- Breville is the only option for appliance brand machines, otherwise you’re looking at the specialist brands.

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                    • Waldog
                      Waldog commented
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                      I have to agree, whilst the EM5300 was my first psuedo-manual machine, and it got me by, I was never impressed with the quality of the thing, and then it sh@t itself...

                      The used EM7000 I saitting on the bench now is night and day in build quality and absolutely coffee quality. I'm under no uillusion that it's still an 'appliance' coffee machine, but it's all i need for now, and parts availabilty is awesome.

                      Just need to work on my grind and dosing....

                  • #11
                    Originally posted by GioDiCe View Post
                    I returned my EM5300 under warranty and upgraded, paying the difference, to a Breville Barista Express. The Sunbeam was leaking quite a bit from the back, unsure exactly why.
                    Mine did the same. I did live with it for a few months then returned it whilst under warranty and got a BES870. I then switched to a BES920.

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