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  • asfletch
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    FWIW, I’m trying to dial in same Dynamic Duo with a bag of Lazzio Brazilian at the moment. With an 18g dose I am getting a decent ristretto of about 26-27g using setting 13 on the SGP. Settings of 10 or below choke my machine. So many variables!

    PS can recommend the Aldi beans for lattes - not too far off my preferred local roastery’s white blend.

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  • gerbi
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    Originally posted by TheDolphin View Post
    Punzilla, I got some fresh beans and big difference. I am still adjusting but last batch was 11g ...
    From my experience with Breville single basket (until I gave up) I had to put 12.2g minimum in order to tamp it. I tried 12.0g - it wasn't enough for the standard Breville tamper which comes with the machine to compress the puck.
    The weight (12.2g) sounds awkward but I tested multiple times with different beans - every time I went below 12.2g I was getting channelling and espresso was spraying all over the place (I am using naked portafilter).
    Last edited by gerbi; 1st June 2020, 05:00 AM. Reason: Corrections

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  • punzilla
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    That sounds great. Im still having a tough time with the Vittoria mountain grown coffee and I've still got a few packets that my wife bought to test out the grinding on. I might get myself some different beans soon. This one is too tricky to work with. Looking forward to hearing about your experience.

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  • TheDolphin
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    Punzilla, I got some fresh beans and big difference. I am still adjusting but last batch was 11g at grind setting 10, single basket still. I don't measure the volume/weight out but it looked about right and tasted great. I think I need to up the grind size a bit more. Will keep adjusting and also try the double basket and post back here.

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  • level3ninja
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    Originally posted by itsali View Post
    I've been through this tail chasing process, and I'd suggest at a minimum, buying some Aldi Lazio coffee. The use by dates are 13 months from date of roast, if i remember correctly, so try get the "latest" use by. You'll get better tasting coffee, more consistent, and won't be running your grinder at almost maximum, oh and you'll see proper crema!

    As suggested above, the single basket is unforgiving and is a lot more difficult to maintain consistency shot-to-shot.

    I'd get a bag of Lazio to start learning with, 18-20 grams into a double basket and see how you go.
    They actually give the roast date on the bag. It's just below the expiry date and in reverse format YYMMDD. The single origins are better than the blends. I think Brazil and Peru were there last time I was there, Brazil is the better of the two. Colombia is the best if you can get it, if it was fresh enough I'd use it as my every day bean but it's hard to ​get much younger than 3 weeks post roast date, and they only get replenished every few weeks at best (at least near me) I'd rather support a little guy and get fresh coffee. None of them last much past 4 weeks from roast date, the Peru even less. They can be good for mucking around on though.

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  • itsali
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    I've been through this tail chasing process, and I'd suggest at a minimum, buying some Aldi Lazio coffee. The use by dates are 13 months from date of roast, if i remember correctly, so try get the "latest" use by. You'll get better tasting coffee, more consistent, and won't be running your grinder at almost maximum, oh and you'll see proper crema!

    As suggested above, the single basket is unforgiving and is a lot more difficult to maintain consistency shot-to-shot.

    I'd get a bag of Lazio to start learning with, 18-20 grams into a double basket and see how you go.

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  • punzilla
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    Originally posted by TheDolphin View Post
    Thanks for the replies Ninja and Leroy, I'll go out and get some fresh beans and give it a try. Didn't mean to hijack your thread Punza, our issues were simlar so figured the answers were relevant to both of us.
    Thanks for doing so! I'm still experimenting and think that the vittoria mountain grown beans are really difficult to work with in our machines. I'm not sure how much success that I'll end up having, but please provide an update noce you get your fresh beans.

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  • TheDolphin
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    Thanks for the replies Ninja and Leroy, I'll go out and get some fresh beans and give it a try. Didn't mean to hijack your thread Punza, our issues were simlar so figured the answers were relevant to both of us.

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  • punzilla
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    Yeah right so far getting an alright result from using size 4 grinder settings, 11g coffee 22g yield. Though if my tamping is not perfect then it can affect the end result. Still not perfect but I'll keep trying I'll play around with temperature settings soon too but I got one really good shot today so I'll keep trying. Thanks all

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  • LeroyC
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    Originally posted by TheDolphin View Post
    Hey Leroy, do fresh beans make a diference to the pressure or are you just commenting on taste?
    Definitely. Especially when you’re learning or working out a new machine.

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  • level3ninja
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    Originally posted by TheDolphin View Post
    do fresh beans make a diference to the pressure or are you just commenting on taste?
    They absolutely do. Most supermarket beans are so stale you need to grind them miles finer and still can't get good pressure.

    Also your grinder has an inner burr setting that can be adjusted, check the manual for instructions. From memory each setting finer on the inner burr moves the grind size about 10 numbers finer but still displays the same number.

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  • crazyhakins
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    Originally posted by punzilla View Post
    I'm replying from my google account. I've been looking at this video for advice and also read some information on the website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BT7...C&index=3&t=0s I am trying their technique of grind size, yield and time. Yesterday with the 1 cup portafilter basket I filled it with 11g of coffee and got a yield of 22g in 14 seconds. I then tried reducing the grind size on my grind to pull out the 22gs in 18 seconds though I then seemed to tase bitter again. I'm about to give it another try. Fingers crossed. I'm not sure whether I should reduce the grind any further. It is about 6 on the Breville Smart Grinder.
    Single baskets are notoriously unforgiving. I'd be more inclined to use a double basket as you will find it much easier to replicate your results and finetune your technique. If that first shot you pulled n 14 seconds tasted good, stick with that. It's really all about taste in the end.

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  • punzilla
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    I'm replying from my google account. I've been looking at this video for advice and also read some information on the website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BT7...C&index=3&t=0s I am trying their technique of grind size, yield and time. Yesterday with the 1 cup portafilter basket I filled it with 11g of coffee and got a yield of 22g in 14 seconds. I then tried reducing the grind size on my grind to pull out the 22gs in 18 seconds though I then seemed to tase bitter again. I'm about to give it another try. Fingers crossed. I'm not sure whether I should reduce the grind any further. It is about 6 on the Breville Smart Grinder.

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  • TheDolphin
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    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
    Use good quality, fresh, locally roasted coffee and you should notice an improvement.
    Hey Leroy, do fresh beans make a diference to the pressure or are you just commenting on taste?

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  • TheDolphin
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    So I thought I would try with the double shot basket and am having trouble too. I measured out 18g coffee and on grind setting 6 and I got a maximum pressure of 5 and way too fast extraction. I had to go all the way down to grind setting of 1 to get the prssure up to 9 bar. Coffee volume and taste seems ok but I think that is way too fine a grind, when I remove the portafilter there is a pool of water sitting on top.

    Is there any other way to increase pressure other than smaller grind size?

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