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  • PIDs on silvia

    Hi all, i see there are a few PID brands out there, the most common being auber (from my observations) that said I was looking to investigate further. My questions are as follows:
    1/what other brands are out threre, I noticed there is a meCoffee bluetooth PID that looks interesting too
    2/ user experiences with their PID
    3/ best value PID with the best functionality
    4/ personal suggestions to what to buy
    5/ any other suggestions

    Simply I want to make the user experience a quick, simple and consistent process.

    Cheers all
    Jenk

  • #2
    My experience with a single channel Auber on my old Silvia was: very simple to use, it seemed quite reliable but I didn't use it for many many years on end to test this.
    Auber has a very solid reputation and I would guess that is no accident. I would happily recommend an Auber PID to any Silvia user.

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    • #3
      There are PID add-on kits from Auber that you can purchase through some of our Site Sponsors, eg JetBlack Espresso...

      Mal.

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      • #4
        i do like them, but looking at all options or alternate ideas, if there are any out there

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        • #5
          Avoid the meCoffee. Sad backstory, but the end result is that the support for it is very lacking. From what I've read the circuit board doesn't follow industry standards on things like spacing 240V from the ~5V control tracks. Not something I'd be willing to leave plugged in when not under direct supervision.

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          • #6
            Lv3Ninja cam you explain a little more please about that "spacing 240V from the ~5V control tracks" I dont understand what means, it is important data to know

            Many thanks

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            • level3ninja
              level3ninja commented
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              The meCoffee is a circuit board based controller. The circuit board itself has copper tracks on it that are used to conduct electricity between various components. The circuit board has a very low voltage used for control and mains voltage it switches to make the machine operate etc. There are industry norms regarding the spacing / segregation on circuit boards between the mains and control voltages, to nature sure the control components that can't handle mains voltage don't accidentally get mains voltage and potentially melt / blow up / start fires. I read something a while ago where someone who was familiar with those industry standards said that the meCoffee did not confirm to those requirements. Hence my comment about not wanting to leave a machine with that in it plugged in while I wasn't watching it.

          • #7
            thanks for the advice mate, that is solid information, From my recolationthe mecoffee is now replaced by another newer device but its a euro option i was always unsure of either way

            Jenk

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            • #8
              Hello again Jenk,

              I feel like I am in a similar position to you with my Silvia. I am looking at PID, but I am apprehensive to go with the Auber because of how it looks and its price. I have been looking into meCoffee, but I have not had any response from the site owner, which is a little concerning.

              All my research thus far is saying go with the Auber. It's the most safe a reliable option.
              I need to be more objective and ignore the looks and cost and just except it hahah

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              • #9
                I wonder if you would both be better financially and for long term reliability to sell your Silvia and buy a second hand Lelit PL41 TEMD which comes standard with PID?

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by 338 View Post
                  I wonder if you would both be better financially and for long term reliability to sell your Silvia and buy a second hand Lelit PL41 TEMD which comes standard with PID?
                  A lot of people have said similar things, but it's difficult to come across second-hand PID machines, especially down in Hobart.
                  It's definitely something I am keeping my eye out for though

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                  • #11
                    Worst case a Lelit PLl41temd is $1049 new with warranty from Jetblack who has a Tasmanian shop. Less resale of your Sylvia

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                    • #12
                      Well, given that you already own the Silvia, a top level Auber PID Kit comes in at just over $300 and will add to the Silvia's resale value in the future. No need to spend any more than that to end up with a machine that will perform on equal footing with a new Lelit machine. The instructions that come with the Kit are very detailed in a clear step by step layout complete with photos. If you're not qualified or happy to do this mod yourself, it's a walk in the park for a licensed sparky to do for you.

                      Mal.

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by 338 View Post
                        Worst case a Lelit PLl41temd is $1049 new with warranty from Jetblack who has a Tasmanian shop. Less resale of your Sylvia
                        Jetblack could also install the PID on your Silvia for you

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                        • #14
                          from what i gather the Auber is good, but it is only temp control, I have noticed the ITO seems to do flow, pressure and temp control which is a huge plus and not for too much more. If i were to go to a lelit, it would be the bianca and id do it right the first time, but the ITO seems to do all the bianca does less the second boiler, and that i can deal with as i only drink espresso, cheers all for the words of wisdom

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                        • #15
                          it is indeed dimal

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                          • Dimal
                            Dimal commented
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                            There are also quite a few Raspberry Pi/Arduino setups that people have put together that may be also worth considering. Lots of innovative ideas on their support sites.
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