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IIRC they had them at the cafe I worked at for a short while last year.
Thats where I got the idea from for serving the milk separately for the macchiatos.
The customer couldnt complain then if the amount of milk wasnt right.
Mind you, I had to steam the milk in a regular sized jug and fill the small one.
No way a full powered commercial machine would be able to steam in one of those.
My first 1 litre jug of milk was up to temp so fast I almost overshot the mark.
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ooh yeah, Ive seen those little nub-jugs Theres a kitchen shop near work that sells then... I always wondered, "Who would buy such a small just and what the heck would you use it for?!!"... You just answered both my questions TG
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Well *$#^ me TG, there actually is an "Iddy Biddy" shop afterall! ;D
LOL, Ive been having a giggle about the "20 ml *JUG*" ever since I read your post - and there it is in living colour!
No, it is now LMFAO! Im gettin one, my wife already looks at me strange when I "go to work" on the machine. I cant wait to see the look on her face....sorry, cant type anymore... ;D ;D ;D
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I cant remember where I got them (2).Originally posted by Wrecker link=1216626007/0#15 date=1216879736Where did you get a 20 ml jug? Iddy biddy coffee accessories incorporated?
20ml is a typo surely. Thats about half the size of a shot glass! I dont know if I could fit my steam wand tip in a "20 ml jug"!
Ive measured the capacity.
25ml (not a bad guess before).
You got me curious about steaming in them (no I hadnt tried it before).Originally posted by YeeZa link=1216626007/0#14 date=1216879147You dont steam it in that though..... right?
Half filled and gave it a go.
I did turn the valve on slowly so as not to wear the milk.
Got a bit of a "ch ch" happening but had to stop as the milk was up to temp in about 4 seconds. ;D
So the answer is, "Yes", you can steam milk for your macchiatos in them.
The picture shows one jug on the top left of the Expobar where it normally resides.
The other one usually sits in the opposite corner but for the sake of the picture is right way up sitting on a cup.
You can just make out the spout.
The shot glass, complete with 25ml of water measured from the jug, is in the picture for added perspective.

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sorry for all the spelling mistakes - just read my post and laughed.
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Okay people,
Machine arrived. Some issues with the freight company but thats another story. Unboxed it, filled it with filtered water and started the warm up process.
Unboxed the grinder (K3 Touch) read the crappy instruction manual and was pretty confused as I couldnt find the gring settings. Finally worked it out but the markings are crap and its hard to dial in perfectly. I would suggest that you put your own markings on it.
Then the fun started.
I think I made over 20 double shots of espresso before the perfect cup came through albeit I used almost 300g of Epic Blend.
Process is as follows;
Coffee grind was set to half (the only way I can describe it as the markings are crap but it game me a consistancy of something between ground pepper and sand)
Dosed the basket so it left a small mound (double basket) - not sure how much coffee as I dont have any digital scales but I would think it was around 20-23 grams.
I then smoothed it out with a straight edge to fill the backet completed and the tamped it around 15kg.
Pulled the best 30ml double espresso with an extraction time of 25 seconds ( from when the coffee comes though) ever.... I wish I video recordered for you ..actually I might do and then put it on YOUTUBE for all to see..
I think the grinder will be ok once I get used to it....the actually result of the grind which is what counts is very good...maybe Im just a fussy bugger.
Cheers
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Where did you get a 20 ml jug? Iddy biddy coffee accessories incorporated?
20ml is a typo surely. Thats about half the size of a shot glass! I dont know if I could fit my steam wand tip in a "20 ml jug"!
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You dont steam it in that though..... right?
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Ill measure it and post a picture tonight.
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Originally posted by Thundergod link=1216626007/0#11 date=1216863297I have a small jug...Its probably about 20ml.

...streuth TG, thats a small jug alright...
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I have a small jug that I use to serve the milk in for a macchiato (some people are fussy about how much they want).
Its probably about 20ml.
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Good Lord, a 100ml jug???
Mind you though, I did contemplate going smaller when I was experimenting with steaming double thick cream - but 100ml!? Wheres one of wifes thimbles?
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What about the 100ml jug I use for a macchiato when I feel inclined?? :POriginally posted by Wrecker link=1216626007/0#8 date=1216854390Maybe it wouldve taken less time with a smaller jug, who knows? But I can say with certainty that you dont "need" a smaller jug.
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I respectfully disagree with the second part of the above whilst wholeheartedly endorsing the first.Originally posted by Bullitt link=1216626007/0#7 date=1216853022then with practice you should be able to manage just enough milk for one if you need to, but you will need a 300ml jug to do it.
The smallest jug Ive got is 600ml and my HX steams FAST. Practice is the key and whilst it is probably very valid to argue that a little milk in a big jug makes the job harder, I would counter argue that it makes you concentrate even more.
It took me less than 2 weeks to consistently get properly stretched and textured milk for both flat whites and cappas + lattes. Maybe it wouldve taken less time with a smaller jug, who knows? But I can say with certainty that you dont "need" a smaller jug.
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Hi Grubba,
With respect to Philmac, I wouldnt bother buying any supermarket beans to dial your grinder in, because it is quite likely that they will be so stale that the grind setting will be nothing like what you need for the fresh beans you get from places like Epic, the less variables you have to contend with initially, the quicker you will start to get comfortable with your new gear.
The other point he made about blocking up one of the holes in the steam tip does seem to be a good idea for new users of this type of machine, unless of course Chris has fitted a different tip to the factory one? You probably will find it difficult to steam milk for one person initially, and might have to start with enough milk for 2 drinks and pour out the balance, then with practice you should be able to manage just enough milk for one if you need to, but you will need a 300ml jug to do it.
Bullitt
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