Hello, new to the forum and looking for advice as we finally bought our place, which needs a grown-up coffee machine, and a grinder 
I have made coffee in a moka pot (Bialetti of course) my whole life, so this is a serious upgrade!
Our coffee machine needs:
As we have a fair few expenses in setting up the new place, I will buy one earlier and the other later in the year.
From what I understand by reading in this forum, the grinder is the limiting factor. Should I get that first and keep making coffee with the Moka, and get the coffee machine later?
For the grinder, I think probably the Eureka Mignon would suit our needs best. Is the Manuale model a good buy?
In regards to coffee machines, I see that suggestions include the Gaggia Classic Pro, Rancilio Silvia, Lelit PM41 (which I can't find, I can find the PL41).
Any advice on which would suit us best?
How about the Quick Mill Stretta? I haven't found any reviews.
I also see that Jetblack Espresso has a pre-loved Lelit PL41TEMD for $900, I guess that could be a good buy for us?
I will use the quote request form on this forum as well.
Thanks for any advice you may have, and have a great Xmas/New Year break!

I have made coffee in a moka pot (Bialetti of course) my whole life, so this is a serious upgrade!
Our coffee machine needs:
- we will be making 2-4 coffees a day most days, occasionally when we have guests 4-6 in a row
- looking for a manual machine, but with a not-so-steep learning curve, that behaves quite consistently in the hands of a newbie.
- we'd like a machine that we can repair over the years and last a long time.
- we drink black espresso (no milk), but I like to froth my soy/almond/oat milk at breakfast, so a frothing capability is needed. I make coffee last so I can wait after steaming the milk.
- relatively small footprint as the bench space is limited
- relatively small footprint as the bench space is limited
- not very noisy as we live in an apartment.
- stepless if possible with our budget
As we have a fair few expenses in setting up the new place, I will buy one earlier and the other later in the year.
From what I understand by reading in this forum, the grinder is the limiting factor. Should I get that first and keep making coffee with the Moka, and get the coffee machine later?
For the grinder, I think probably the Eureka Mignon would suit our needs best. Is the Manuale model a good buy?
In regards to coffee machines, I see that suggestions include the Gaggia Classic Pro, Rancilio Silvia, Lelit PM41 (which I can't find, I can find the PL41).
Any advice on which would suit us best?
How about the Quick Mill Stretta? I haven't found any reviews.
I also see that Jetblack Espresso has a pre-loved Lelit PL41TEMD for $900, I guess that could be a good buy for us?
I will use the quote request form on this forum as well.
Thanks for any advice you may have, and have a great Xmas/New Year break!

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