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hi graham,
your advice - sounds easy - wont take 20-30min as previously suggested.
do you put the PF in with the basket?
I am...and turning it on manual for a 1/2 a minute.
feels warm. that should do? or needs to be HOT?
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Re: EM6910 plastic insert
turn on
put the pf in,
when machine ready,
hit long coffee button,
pf hot
ready to go
this is a thermoblock, so doesnt require the same warm up time as a boiler
graham
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Hi lattemummy,
I usually leave it in there for 20-30 mins. A good indication is to touch it with your hand. If its too hot to touch for more then 3-5 seconds its ready. 8-)Originally posted by 474A5F5F4E465E4646522B0 link=1222320381/36#36 date=1270703768maybe a bit too late to contribute to this discussion but, being a newb, HOW LONG are you meant to leave the PF in the grouphead for in order to constitute it being adequately heated up???
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hi all,
maybe a bit too late to contribute to this discussion but, being a newb, HOW LONG are you meant to leave the PF in the grouphead for in order to constitute it being adequately heated up???
thanks
LM
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At work I run some hot water through the pf from the Zip tap to get the gremeless pf up to temp as I dont leave it in the machine to save wear on the seal.
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Im not at all upset - just dont like to have words put in my mouth! Glad youre finding the website helpful
I agree that if you dont warm the machine sufficiently, the graham will probably be beneficial - but its likely to be a case of less bad rather than more good. Pouring some boiling water from the kettle over the portafilter would be better (as the cold plastic will still absorb some heat), but still doesnt address the actual problem - if the portafilter isnt up to temp, the group head probably isnt either, and youll still get sour shots.
Im pretty busy in the mornings too, but I think this actually helps with warmup time - I switch on the machine as soon as Im out of bed, then by the time Ive finished feeding and supervising animals, making the missus a cup of tea etc the machine is ready to go!
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Take the first showerscreen off and see how dirty it is behind.
Its a quick job, just one phillips head screw.
If you find it needs a scrub then also remove the second one and give it a clean as well.
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No I thought the cleaning cycle of the 6910 should take care of that. I have done that once so far and used the tablet
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Have you removed the showerscreen yet to see if it needs cleaning?
Do you use the cleaning tablets?
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OK didnt want to upset anybody. The reason Im here too is the same as everyone else. I like good coffee and appreciate the tips on achieveing that. Since joining I have taken the advice: bought a reasonable grinder SB EM0480, and have been roasting my own beans with a popper and am now making better coffees than I can buy anywhere in my town. I will beg to differ on the plastic thing, but will remove it from time to time to clean up under it if necessary. I dontalways have the time to warm the 6910 up for very long - work commitments, wife and dogs all demand attention. So I think the plastic thing in theory helps me to get a consistently better shot, although I havent actually tried without it.
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We advise everyone to get a good grinder as its the most important piece of equipment needed for good coffee.Originally posted by Wazz link=1222320381/20#25 date=1223517008not everybody has a grinder and not everybody has access to freshly brewed coffee
So yes not everyone has one, but if given the choice, a coffee snob would take a grinder over a machine if they could only have one or the other.
As for not having access to fresh coffee thats clearly wrong becuase in this day and age you can have fresh coffee delivered to your door within a few days of roasting, which is plenty of time to let it degas and be ready for use.
Id even wait a few more days before using with some of the ones I like.
Theres also the option of roasting your own.
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And I made that argument where exactly? Look up analogy.Originally posted by Wazz link=1222320381/20#25 date=1223517008This is a fallacious argument - just because one attachment is included for what you consider an ignoble purpose doesnt mean that everything else has no legitimate purpose. And anyway, I think that if the pressurised baskets help people to get a better coffee from the coffee they buy then thats legitimate too. This Coffee snobs thing can be taken a bit too far. I dont use the pressurised baskets, but not everybody has a grinder and not everybody has access to freshly brewed coffeeOriginally posted by m@ link=1222320381/20#24 date=1223504054The pressurised baskets supplied with the 6910 are also there for a good reason - to compensate for people using the machine incorrectly (using stale preground coffee from Woolies). If you use the machine correctly (use freshly roast & ground beans and preheat the machine thoroughly) you dont need either.
Both devices attempt - with little success - to compensate for deficiencies in technique; amending the technique is a better solution.
On your other point, people generally come to this site because they want to enjoy good coffee at home and are looking for advice on how to do so. My advice, based on experience, is to use freshly roast and ground coffee and to allow their machine sufficient warmup time, with portafilter installed. You - or anyone - can choose to reject this advice, but it rather begs the question - why ask in the first place?
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Is that a supernatural being in Scandinavian mythology? No Im not.

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Pressurised baskets are used to give stale preground coffee the look of a coffee made with just ground, fresh coffee.
They dont make the coffee better.
And as for saying "This Coffee snobs thing can be taken a bit too far"...youll get more than one argument here about that.
Youre not a troll are you?
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This is a fallacious argument - just because one attachment is included for what you consider an ignoble purpose doesnt mean that everything else has no legitimate purpose. And anyway, I think that if the pressurised baskets help people to get a better coffee from the coffee they buy then thats legitimate too. This Coffee snobs thing can be taken a bit too far. I dont use the pressurised baskets, but not everybody has a grinder and not everybody has access to freshly brewed coffeeOriginally posted by m@ link=1222320381/20#24 date=1223504054The pressurised baskets supplied with the 6910 are also there for a good reason - to compensate for people using the machine incorrectly (using stale preground coffee from Woolies). If you use the machine correctly (use freshly roast & ground beans and preheat the machine thoroughly) you dont need either.
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