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  • #16
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    Same here.
    I didnt need my second Pullman but found an excuse to justify buying it.
    Beautiful.

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    • #17
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      I sold my older Pullman with LM basket to fund the new Pullman Barista
      One good tamper is all I need

      Don’t like to see good things made for work left idle
      That said. It went to a good CS home


      KK

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      • #18
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        Thanks all,

        Angermanagement, if Phil makes a Tamper Im afraid Ill bags it first...

        Unfortunately though, like mechanics who never quite have the time to get their own cars running perfectly, things for home are always at the bottom of the to do list.  Hence the request for advice on buying one to use while Im waiting    LOL

        -Carrie

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        • #19
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          In that case I recommend a Pullman because it will last forever and it sounds like thats how long youll be waiting.  

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          • #20
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            Yes, I think it sounds like an open & shut case for the Pullman.  And when Phil has a go at making one, well have something decent to compare it with  

            ;D  I didnt intend to sound mean before,  it doesnt take FOREVER to get things for home...  just long enough that theyre a nice surprise when they turn up unannounced & unexpected.   ;D

            -Carrie

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            • #21
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              Good choice Carrie

              Pullman tampers are made with care and precision
              May I suggest the new Barista model for its balance and comfortable handles
              Make sure you have you husband measure your basket to have the tamper made to fit or buy a new fitted basket

              KK

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              • #22
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                Thanks KK,  Ive just been off looking at the Pullman site and thought the Barista looked great too.  

                Now Im going to push the friendship and ask......

                Flat or Convex????    

                Cheers - Carrie

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                • #23
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                  Carrie it depends on you machine
                  Most people go for a flat profile and will suit all machines

                  I however I own a Convex Barista to suit the profile of my machines shower screen which is convex (just a personal preference)

                  My older Pullman was a flat profile and it worked just as good

                  KK

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by CarrieK link=1226715794/20#21 date=1226815739
                    Thanks KK,  Ive just been off looking at the Pullman site and thought the Barista looked great too.  

                    Now Im going to push the friendship and ask......

                    Flat or Convex????    

                    Cheers - Carrie
                    One well known sponsor (Greg) would be able to give some detail on this and I am sure that others also have their perceptions...

                    However for me; I have always assumed that the biggest impact is the shape and profile of the shower screen...

                    Thus all my tamps to date have been flat.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by CarrieK link=1226715794/20#21 date=1226815739
                      Now Im going to push the friendship and ask......

                      Flat or Convex????    

                      Cheers - Carrie
                      Hi Carrie,

                      Well Im not Greg..... but the other half of the "Pullman empire"....

                      Re flat or convex.... to be honest that really depends on you, your technique, your machine and what, in combination, gives you the best and most consistent results.

                      I personally believe, as AngerManagement said above that best results are obtained when the shape of the base matches the shape (profile) of the machines showerscreen - but not everyone agrees this is true.

                      With my La Cimbali (convex showerscreen) I get the best results with a convex base..... and have always preferred convex bases..... Greg, on the other hand prefers flat bases.

                      Most of our customers in Australia purchase flat based tampers for a wide range of machines whereas our overseas customers purchase more convex..... and all are happy with the results!

                      I guess what Im trying to say is that there is no "definitive" answer to your question..... both work very well.... customers are happy using both base profiles with a range of different machines..... so it is really down to what works best for you..... and that is a bit hard until you have tried them both.

                      Im sure that you will be happy which ever profile you choose.

                      Robin.

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                      • #26
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                        Would a tamper that weighs 15-20kg be useful in ensuring the correct pressure?

                        I was thinking of turning one out of a large solid bar of steel i had laying around...
                        Then i thought "hey, this thing weighs about 15kg"

                        After further thought, I realised "I could just leave it as a bar!"

                        Okay so ergonomics would suffer (in theory).

                        ...but should the pressure be 15kg/cm2 (meaning my mega-tamper wouldnt really work) or is the 15kg applied evenly over the entire surface area?


                        Thinking on another level again, one could imagine a pile driver type of setup...
                        - A heavy bar, maybe 7kg, fitted inside a tube.
                        - Placing the group under the tube and dropping the bar onto it = correct pressure applied.
                        - Adjusting the height of the drop would vary the pressure applied (according to law of gravity)
                        - Markings on the bar would read 12..13..14...19....20kg.

                        Sensible? Or no?

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by 3129272E2E3B420 link=1226715794/25#25 date=1246929003
                          Would a tamper that weighs 15-20kg be useful in ensuring the correct pressure?

                          I was thinking of turning one out of a large solid bar of steel i had laying around...
                          Then i thought "hey, this thing weighs about 15kg"

                          After further thought, I realised "I could just leave it as a bar!"

                          Okay so ergonomics would suffer (in theory).

                          ...but should the pressure be 15kg/cm2 (meaning my mega-tamper wouldnt really work) or is the 15kg applied evenly over the entire surface area?


                          Thinking on another level again, one could imagine a pile driver type of setup...
                          - A heavy bar, maybe 7kg, fitted inside a tube.
                          - Placing the group under the tube and dropping the bar onto it = correct pressure applied.
                          - Adjusting the height of the drop would vary the pressure applied (according to law of gravity)
                          - Markings on the bar would read 12..13..14...19....20kg.

                          Sensible? Or no?
                          ROFLMFAO... Tampers 101 - what not to do...

                          It comes down to managing all the variables and the so called rules are only guidelines...

                          I want to see the rubber shock mounts / system your going to use to protect the bench top:-)

                          I use may be 5 to 8 kg at best... Measure it on a set of scales by pushing down... Would hardly squash a mossie but works for me.

                          Still ROFLMAO just thinking about a pile driver...

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by 78606E6767720B0 link=1226715794/25#25 date=1246929003
                            Would a tamper that weighs 15-20kg be useful in ensuring the correct pressure?

                            I was thinking of turning one out of a large solid bar of steel i had laying around...
                            Then i thought "hey, this thing weighs about 15kg"

                            After further thought, I realised "I could just leave it as a bar!"

                            Okay so ergonomics would suffer (in theory).

                            ...but should the pressure be 15kg/cm2 (meaning my mega-tamper wouldnt really work) or is the 15kg applied evenly over the entire surface area?


                            Thinking on another level again, one could imagine a pile driver type of setup...
                            - A heavy bar, maybe 7kg, fitted inside a tube.
                            - Placing the group under the tube and dropping the bar onto it = correct pressure applied.
                            - Adjusting the height of the drop would vary the pressure applied (according to law of gravity)
                            - Markings on the bar would read 12..13..14...19....20kg.

                            Sensible? Or no?
                            If you do that you are going to be hitting the coffee bed not pressing down on it. The difference being using an impacting force will probably cause ripples through the bed albeit very small (kinda like those super slo mo videos of people being hit). I see this resulting in more tiny airpockets and cracks and a very uneven extraction.

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by 705C4F49545C51627052535658443D0 link=1226715794/27#27 date=1247472700
                              I see this resulting in more tiny airpockets and cracks and a very uneven extraction.
                              I think youre being kind. I see it more as a coffee explosion with not much of it left in the basket. ;D

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                              • #30
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                                Ive just being browsing around, still fairly new and came across this thread. It has a common message - Pullman tampers are highly recommended. However, still be very new to the world of coffee, I am going to ask what may be a stupid question: Flat or Convex? I have read it is dependable on the showerscreen of your machine. What is the showerscreen and where can I find this out about my machine?

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