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    Took my spare Rancilio portafilter into the local engineering works a couple of days ago, theyre going to take the bottom out on a lathe, will be interesting to see -- A what sort of job they do and ---B whether or not I will actually use it, or will it just be another dust collector. :

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    Re: Getting naked.

    Originally posted by 6A565F4752330 link=1276938647/0#0 date=1276938647
    Took my spare Rancilio portafilter into the local engineering works a couple of days ago, theyre going to take the bottom out on a lathe, will be interesting to see -- A what sort of job they do and ---B whether or not I will actually use it, or will it just be another dust collector.  :
    I use mine exclusively!

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    • #3
      Re: Getting naked.

      Yep I use mine almost always too. I sometimes put the double spout handle on just to check the pour consistency from it but most of the time its naked for me.

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      • #4
        Re: Getting naked.

        Nakid when the other group is dirty...

        Or


        I cant remember where I put it...


        With a DCM ya dont get channelling


        But until I add some mini blue leds around teh group; the great beauty of a good pour is hard to see in teh shadows...

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        • #5
          Re: Getting naked.

          Hmmm, the said engineering people did a very neat job, looks great.
          Im using it and will continue to do so for a few days until I am sure of my feelings, however at this stage am thinking I can see more downside than up.
          What Ive seen up to now is that when things go wrong (and they do) your shiny pride and joy finishes up looking like a mud spattered ute real fast. >
          It can be a pain lining up espresso cups, off by a smidgin and another mess. >
          It alters the shot characteristics (found they flow faster when naked)
          Has it helped improve my shots? nope, not in the least, they were good prior to the trial and they are still good.
          Was it worth the effort? yes, if I hadnt given it a go I never would have known, at this stage though I suspect its going to become a dust collector real fast, or even worse into the unused coffee gear bin down in the shed, the best I can say at this stage is it was an interesting exercise.

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          • #6
            Re: Getting naked.

            I use a naked most of the time at work. Better mouthfeel & a constant reminder of my inputs (grind/dose/distribution/tamp). You dont get away with much with a bottomless. Co-workers hate it for the same reasons.
            When the whole plot comes together (not often enough) its well worth it.

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            • #7
              Re: Getting naked.

              Interesting thread here
              http://www.bestcafes.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=603.15
              Seems as many like as dislike them for various reasons. :-/

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              • #8
                Re: Getting naked.

                I think the bottomless Group Handle is a handy tool for ensuring ones technique remains on track but other than that (and the odd photo-shoot) it sits in the cupboard mimicking a paper-weight..... :

                Mal.

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                • #9
                  Re: Getting naked.

                  Originally posted by 5F72767A771B0 link=1276938647/7#7 date=1277278913
                  I think the bottomless Group Handle is a handy tool for ensuring ones technique remains on track but other than that (and the odd photo-shoot) it sits in the cupboard mimicking a paper-weight..... :

                  Mal.
                  And that about sums it up.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Getting naked.

                    Originally posted by 5E626B7366070 link=1276938647/8#8 date=1277279118
                    Originally posted by 5F72767A771B0 link=1276938647/7#7 date=1277278913
                    I think the bottomless Group Handle is a handy tool for ensuring ones technique remains on track but other than that (and the odd photo-shoot) it sits in the cupboard mimicking a paper-weight..... :

                    Mal.
                    And that about sums it up.
                    Yep and mine even leaves dirty stains on teh paper.. Might have to do something about that...

                    Opps... It is slowly making teh Attendance word on teh Coffee / Barista Certificate hard to read.. May end up reading Achieved 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Getting naked.

                      Well...I use it exclusively, unless Im making more than one cup when friends pop over. Most times though they get a double ristretto shot from the naked pf rather than splitting a shot from the spouted pf.

                      Better mouthfeel to, as Blue House mentioned.

                      Using a naked ensures no nasty residual coffee oil tastes from shot to shot, day to day. I found that after a couple days use with a spouted pf, you quickly accumulate a lot of coffee oil in the pf - remove your basket and check it out. So using a naked pf means I dont have to clean a spouted pf with chemical. All good I say.

                      Javabeen.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Getting naked.

                        Originally posted by 252E392E2D2A2A214F0 link=1276938647/10#10 date=1277289012
                        Better mouthfeel
                        Perhaps to you, as far as I and many others are concerned there is little or no difference, some even suggest a naked PF is detrimental to mouthfeel and flavour, I dont subscribe to this view either, whatever difference there is is pretty marginal.
                        Originally posted by 252E392E2D2A2A214F0 link=1276938647/10#10 date=1277289012
                        I found that after a couple days use with a spouted pf, you quickly accumulate a lot of coffee oil in the pf
                        You used a PF for two days without removing the basket, all bad Id say
                        Originally posted by 252E392E2D2A2A214F0 link=1276938647/10#10 date=1277289012
                        remove your basket and check it out.
                        I do, between each shot and give it a quick rinse under hot water.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Getting naked.

                          Originally posted by 1B272E3623420 link=1276938647/11#11 date=1277290075
                          Originally posted by 252E392E2D2A2A214F0 link=1276938647/10#10 date=1277289012
                          I found that after a couple days use with a spouted pf, you quickly accumulate a lot of coffee oil in the pf
                          You used a PF for two days without removing the basket, all bad Id say  
                          Originally posted by 252E392E2D2A2A214F0 link=1276938647/10#10 date=1277289012
                          remove your basket and check it out.
                          I do, between each shot and give it a quick rinse under hot water.
                          Same for me Jon....

                          I rarely use the Double Spout GH, mostly the Single with a Double Basket fitted but they always get cleaned at least daily and usually after each coffee making session.... We are, after all, Coffee Snobs around these parts :P

                          Mal.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Getting naked.

                            Jon,
                            You dont have to subscribe to my point of view about the mouthfeel from the naked pf - its my observation. Its whatever works for you.

                            I think theres some confusion about the spouted pf comment I made. Firstly, I keep my machine and gear meticulously clean, enough said. When I use the spouted pf though, no amount of hot water rinsing removes the coffee oils after 2 days use unless you get in there and scrub it, or soak it in something like Cafetto.

                            Ive found using a naked pf simply means you have a cleaner pf and basket, thats all.

                            Hope this makes sense.

                            Javabeen.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Getting naked.

                              Originally posted by 363D2A3D3E3939325C0 link=1276938647/13#13 date=1277334857
                              When I use the spouted pf though, no amount of hot water rinsing removes the coffee oils after 2 days use unless you get in there and scrub it, or soak it in something like Cafetto.
                              I can see to some extent where your coming from with some of teh topic..

                              However... the bit above is confusing...

                              Like Mal and a few others... I rinse my group and remove my basket and wash in teh sink after every session..

                              This could be one shot or a few mates over and 3 or 4 shots in a row... Then before I flick teh machine off... A quick rinse with hot water.. Brush out teh group and then to the sink... Clean group handle and remove basket and rinse group and basket in hot water..

                              Can go a lot more than two days; before needing a chemical clean..

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