Re: EM6900 SUNBEAM - A RIPPER!
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Re: EM6900 SUNBEAM - A RIPPER!
Sort of like the cistern in a toilet ;POriginally posted by Zakal1 link=1151632804/15#28 date=1152753306Well im no plumber, but couldnt you rig up an auto level kinda like an auto-bilge pump on a boat that would just auto fill the watertank when it got to a certain level
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Re: EM6900 SUNBEAM - A RIPPER!
Well im no plumber, but couldnt you rig up an auto level kinda like an auto-bilge pump on a boat that would just auto fill the watertank when it got to a certain level.
Never know...might work.
Would be interesting to see how the sunbeam handled constant high-use as well...
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Yeppers- Its a great concept....now if I can just gettem to make their own coffee and leave the bucks in the box on the way out....and remember to lock up of course ;D
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I hear what your saying, only practical if you can plumb in the sunbeams... imagine refilling the water tank inbetween shots etc - when youre flat out, thats not a practical thing to do... but I do like your thinking thoughOriginally posted by ozscott link=1151632804/15#25 date=1152744016...might be somthing to be said for that. If one machine breaks down (and they all do eventually) that it...your out till the rep comes in and hopefully replaces it until the old one is fixed. You have 3 sunbeams they can be put on different parts of the bench(s) and operated individually. If one breaks, then your only down to 2/3rd capacity. Given the cost of a 3 group commercial, wouldnt you be about 2 grand ahead just comaring the set up costs for 3 against one from the outset.
I know that this idea will be shunned, particularly by the commercial crowd, but its food for thought. Yet again this AM I was pulling great espresso, and frankly it makes going to Coffee houses less enjoyable. Also the micofoam is fast and effective with practice.
So how about it...take the label seriously and when setting up a cafe or small coffee shop have 3 EM6900s instead of one 3 group commercial (or 4 compared to a 4 group etc).!!!!
Bring on the critics!
Cheers
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...might be somthing to be said for that. If one machine breaks down (and they all do eventually) that it...your out till the rep comes in and hopefully replaces it until the old one is fixed. You have 3 sunbeams they can be put on different parts of the bench(s) and operated individually. If one breaks, then your only down to 2/3rd capacity. Given the cost of a 3 group commercial, wouldnt you be about 2 grand ahead just comaring the set up costs for 3 against one from the outset.
I know that this idea will be shunned, particularly by the commercial crowd, but its food for thought. Yet again this AM I was pulling great espresso, and frankly it makes going to Coffee houses less enjoyable. Also the micofoam is fast and effective with practice.
So how about it...take the label seriously and when setting up a cafe or small coffee shop have 3 EM6900s instead of one 3 group commercial (or 4 compared to a 4 group etc).!!!!
Bring on the critics!
Cheers
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WowOriginally posted by Rich and Rae link=1151632804/15#23 date=1152704209This you could not do on a Silvia and remain sane.Also, a while ago, we did about 60 coffees over 2 hours with our EM6900 - one of us pulling shots and the other steaming, and had no problems. We were really impressed with how well it did!
thats sealed my decision! Out with the commercial machine at the shop and Ima going a bank of 3 sunbeams :P ;D
Just jokin
2mcm
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This you could not do on a Silvia and remain sane.Also, a while ago, we did about 60 coffees over 2 hours with our EM6900 - one of us pulling shots and the other steaming, and had no problems. We were really impressed with how well it did!
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Merlo Private is my current favorite. I usually try a few different local roasters, but keep coming back to Merlo Private. My neighbour described it as "the cream on the cake" compared to another local product which he described as "the meat in the sandwhich". I keep coming back to that comparison when Im trying something different.Originally posted by ozscott link=1151632804/15#21 date=1152662193I have just picked up some Merlo Espresso Blend beans from Merlo in Brisbane (Dean Merlo roasts them on site). I used the same grind setting on the Rocky as with the Private Blend that he does.
I have found the Merlo beans can be quite stale if you buy from the James St., store. I get mine from the local cafe and its much fresher.... That reminds me, time for a refill.
Cheers,
Mark.
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I just read the latests posts here. I then got all excited and decided to have the second coffee of the day. I have just picked up some Merlo Espresso Blend beans from Merlo in Brisbane (Dean Merlo roasts them on site). I used the same grind setting on the Rocky as with the Private Blend that he does. I then used the standard basket single shot (not the oversize one that came with the EM6900) and filled to about 4mm below the top, smoothed, tamped quite hard and then put in a smidge more coffee so that when tamped again the stainless steel on the tamp that came with the machine was half visible above the rim of the basket and half below - ie so that the coffee was about 3mm or so below the top.
I then whacked it in (it was pre-heated of course) and turned the portfilter all the way to the right (about35-40 degrees) (must have got it right because later I inspected the puck and it bore the solid imprint of the gasket and very faintly of the shower head and centre screw).
Did the auto thing for a single shot and timed it. 20seconds before auto shutoff, down to just before blonding stage when it shut off. Excellent crema - into a glass about 2.5 inches accross and still got a good half inch of crema....in a short black cup this would have made the cream about one inch at a guess. It had a great aroma and I consumed it in three sips and it was BLOODY GREAT.
It has to be said that it was the best short black that I have had for along time, and was really just as good as the ones at Merlos - of a smidge better...HA.
I should also note that when I went to Barizi to get the Rocky, the helpful owner pulled a shot from a Bazera HX ($2,500 worth) after using a doser commercial grinder. To be fair I dont know how fresh his beans were, but it has to be said that the crema that that E61 pumped out was not near mine, and the taste was considerably less enjoyable. I know that there are a lot of variables to these things, but it has to be said that with some dialing in of grind, dose (a biggy - thanks people on this forum for guidance about this) and tamp, this machine is well capable of producing excellent shot after shot espresso (I did a double this AM and it was the same), and for my money I cannot see the value in a HX because the steaming ability is really very good when you get a handle on it.
With my wife pulling shots and me steaming away, I dont think that we would want for anything in doing up multiple coffees for a dinner party.
Well done Sbeam.
S
PS. I just looked and my machine seems to have the blue seal.
PPS. My guage seems to work very accurately. Top of fawn is best. Over that is over extracted (I have never manager to get it higher than mid black, although I am not trying to choke it to death). Lower in the fawn is a little under done and under that is blond all the way basically. I prefer looking at the coffee being extracted, but the guage is helpful and assists my wife no end to produce top shots.
PPPPPPPPPPS. Mine is the red and stainless one, and I only got it from a high turnover store recently, so it seems that the later ones are better in terms of the teething problems of seals etc
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Hi Nicaoau
In the thread about steaming with the 6900, Luca suggested people look at coffeegeek about steaming (which I agree with). Anyway, I think one of the comments was also about the gauge being not too reliable.
Anyway, at Coffeegeek it also talks about the seal of the earlier EM6900s which have not been so good. Could it be that your problem is the seal, if youre not able to use much pressure (and hence it rockets out)? We found either it gushed out, or it choked and came out the top.
Weve just got a new seal and put it in. A guy called Damian who works for Sunbeam is the guy to talk to. His info is in the geek site, and he was such a champ. The thread is about 9 pages at the moment, and Damians info is probably about half way through at a guess. Some of it is full of complaints, but everyone has been really impressed by Damians helpfulness, and I certainly have been.
http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/worldregional/australasia/231555?LastView=115051 is the place!
Re Rich and Rae and steaming:
I agree - Weve found no hassles with steaming with it, and were still on the green side.
Also, a while ago, we did about 60 coffees over 2 hours with our EM6900 - one of us pulling shots and the other steaming, and had no problems. We were really impressed with how well it did!
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then it should still be under warranty. Id get it checked.Originally posted by nicoau link=1151632804/15#17 date=1152173103Sadly I cannot seem to achieve the same quality anymore, either I do not tamp enough and the water rockets through or now as I mentioned above the pressure oscillates.
Bad tasting coffee can be a sign that it needed a good clean. you could try running the cleaning cycles and descale it as suggested in the user manual.
just a thought let us knwo how you get on with it.
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I just had a brilliant tasting Yirg out of mine. Very Chocolatey.
Im guessing my 6900 is one of the later versions as Sunbeam were out of stock due to demand and we had to wait for almost a month till the new shipment came in from China.
My wife had a bunch of ladies over today and she said making a string of coffees was a breeze.
Coffee quality seems more consistant that the Silvia from what I remember. Now that we are getting use to how the 6900 works Id have to say that the coffee quality is probably better than what we were getting out of our Silvia.
BTW my Reg Barber Tamper that I brought for my Silvia fits the 6900 perfectly.
The guage is also handy if you want to expreiment with grind or tamp also "Gorilla Tamps" like some websites advocate for a Silvia are not neccessary
With the lack of steam from the 6900 (when compared to a Silvia) when you can get fabulous microfoam with little effort. Why do you need any more steam presure.? Also the steam seems quite dry, which is a good thing. Id suggest the volume of steam is set to what it is, so that it is more controllable for those that have little or no experience in steaming milk.
Cheers
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I have an early model em6900, not sure if it is v1 or v2, it was purchased around last August.
Does anyone know what they have improved with the latest generation?
Originally when I over packed or ground to fine (or both) the machine would choke but the pressure would remain constant (in the red of course). Now when it chokes the pressure oscillates between the yellow and red. Not sure whether this is an indication of malfunction as this is not normal usage. Does anyone else encounter this behaviour?
I had a lot of problems earlier getting a decent shot. They always tasted very sour and made me suspect the temp level or stability. Measuring the temp showed that it was fine and the stability look ok too. One day I read somewhere here that people had achieved the best results with this machine by using a larger grind and over packing the filter. This worked wonders, really!
Sadly I cannot seem to achieve the same quality anymore, either I do not tamp enough and the water rockets through or now as I mentioned above the pressure oscillates.
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