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  • el_espressio
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    Re: Kitchenaid Artisan Espresso

    I have seen one of these machines in a specialist kitchen shop.  They look fantastic.  The reviews I have read vary widely, but the selling point is clearly that they are made by KitchenAid, the makers of some of the finest appliances money can buy.  Problem is, most of us dont see an espresso machine as an appliance or kitchen accessory.  Therefore, the market is limited to those with serious money to spend, but not the interest in finding out about what the espresso machines specialist manufacturers turn out. As long as it matches your mixer.... The KitchenAid name is one they will know and trust.  Probably a bit like someone buying a pair of skis made by Porsche or a BMW mountain bike  8-)

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  • Mr_PC
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    Apart from this excellent wrap-up for the matching grinder
    http://www.coffeegeek.com/proreviews/firstlook/kitchenaidprolinegrinder/details
    Thanks for the heads up Andy CJ

    I have since found this interesting rave about the unit - a bit more known in America it would seem. And I guess my initial attraction to the machne was the fact that it was KithenAid and their engineering has - in other things - been spot on.
    This is worth a read
    http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/commercial/kitchenaidproespresso/cannonfodder

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  • robusto
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    If looks was the sole criterion, it is a winner. Its certainly a stand-out and the style would make it a talking point.

    At that price, one would hope that the designers engineering skills are as good as his eye for style and therefore it should produce an excellent coffee. I like the two gauges.

    A colleague of mine is thinking of getting one.

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  • wattgn
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    Mr_PC:

    The Silvia/Rocky combo is the one most snobbies plug in this price range, around $1200 new for both.

    If you dont get upgradeitis, they will last a lifetime. If you do get upgradeitis you can sell them easily and get a good proportion of your money back.

    You really cant lose.

    We often argue/discuss ultimate machines which cost typically from $2000 - $4000! ie. what is the best machine type discussions.

    These single boiler machines are not the ultimate machines but can give coffee as good as any with an operator who understands the machine. They have the advantage that they dont cost too much and they dont occupy too much bench space.

    Regards,
    Grant

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  • stratford
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    As they say Mr_PC, all that glitters is not gold....

    Go for engineering before looks, and then see if you can find a unit with both engineering AND looks....

    Cheers....

    P.S. If you are looking around in Lygon St, make sure you check prices with Mocopan in Preston as well...they often have machines cheaper than some of the other dealers...

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  • Mr_PC
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    Yes Thank You Mr Nanu, you have been quite helpful. Have contacted the sponsors and will do some more investigating on Lygon St.....
    May end up with a Silvia even

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  • nunu
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    Were only simple-minded coffee snobs, your comparison is better left to the ones who have much more experience of a wider range of machines. Thats why I pointed to the site sponsors. These are industry professionals, who will give you the answers you seek. Well just give you hype about the Brewtus, how temperature stability is paramount to the extraction process, why you wont get SARS from drinking coffee from civet dung, or whatever machine is to die for this month...

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  • AndyCJ
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    Not sure about the machine, but find out if its just the Gaggia boilers... if it is, then $1000 is a rip, unless you are in it just for the looks, then its probably money well spent - its sure got "retro cool."

    Just as a side - they have also put out a grinder which got a pretty good review at CoffeeGeek. Check it out here:

    http://www.coffeegeek.com/proreviews/firstlook/kitchenaidprolinegrinder/details

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  • Mr_PC
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    Interesting advice from you all.

    I will search further and upload my outcome information.

    It does sound that judgement is being made on a machine that you have no experience with. I was hoping for some cogent objective comment ie comparison on what else is available

    In the defence of Kitchenaid in general, they have a long and strong reputation for both commercial and domestic appliances. They cost more yes, but they certainly come through with performace, and they have very good styling.

    I like the grey machine much more..........

    Specifications

    15 bar pump pressure
    Twin independant boilers
    Gauges for both espresso and steam
    6 espresso cup capacity stainless steel cup warmer
    2 Litre capacity
    Removable stainless steel drip tray
    Chrome plated brass brew group
    Rotating Cappuccino steam nozzle
    Stainless steel filter baskets
    Stainless steel drip plate
    Drip tray full indicator
    Will take both ground coffee or pods
    Makes espresso and cappuccino



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  • marc
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    $1200.00 retail i saw it on the web for. $1100 in melbourne Im told.


    Looks okay, if it was in stainless . But like the others say, depends on whats under the hood.

    If it has gaggia boiler pass. For that price prefer something more Pro.

    cheers

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  • nunu
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    Also another thing to think about...Have a chat with the site sponsors as well.

    They can recommend a much more vast range of options in your budget, and they back it up with excellent service to boot.

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  • Mr_PC
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    Thanks for the advice

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  • nunu
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    The atomic is a whole other animal altogether.

    Ill just suggest that at that price range, you can go with a tried and true Rocky/Silvia combination. Youll get both a good coffee maker and grinder to boot. Cant beat that for value.

    Someone also posted that they have a used Rocky/Silvia for $550 AUD. The link is here:

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1126505070

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  • Mr_PC
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    I like the retro look of the machine....Id wonder what youd say about an Atomic in that case?

    How about some suggestions then..............

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  • nunu
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    Nuff said...Wife says its ugly.

    I think that should deter anyone from this particular machine :P

    It kinda looks like Quasimodo to me...

    Looks aside, Im sure it can produce a decent cup of espresso. Would probably have a difficult time of producing a larger quantity of milk drinks.

    Oh, and at $1000 USD MSRP, I think there may be better options in that price range.

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