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    Hi all,

    I have read some good reviews of the following machines, but am having trouble finding a distributor or retailer in Melbourne.
    Does anyone know where I can find the following units?
    1. La Scala Butterfly
    2. Quickmill Andreja Premium
    3. Isomac Millennium

    thanks
    Ren

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    TalkCoffee 2muchcoffeman... hes good...
    Check the sponsors

    Also without talking and using the machines Id avoid narrowing down the field too early.

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    • #3
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      Yep, check with Chris (TalkCoffee) or if youre after the La Scala try Alan Frew.

      NB: Alan is NOT a Site Sponsor so free plugs for him and his business are not appreciated. We all respect his knowledge of the industry and frequently refer members to some of his articles and reviews, and this is where it should end really....

      Mal.

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        Hi Ren,

        A lot of those machines are, or were, popular in the US. That would mean that the reviews that you read might well have been for 110V machines.

        The isomac millennium seems to have been dropped by most of the US retailers due to quality issues. The quickmill andreja premium is a special upgrade of the standard andreja, which is what we get down here. Personally, I think that there are much better machines for the money than the standard Andreja. The Giotto Premium has very similar stats to the Andreja Premium, but, personally, I have had better espresso out of the diadema machines than the giotto.

        It looks like you have been led up the garden path a bit by reading lots of US-based reviews; your machine selections seem to be completely different from your last thread!

        Cheers,

        Luca

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          Thanks Luca,

          my top 3 units are still the Giotto, VBM Domobar and Expobar Minore, but I thought I should also checkout the Quickmill brand also.

          The Giotto is the best looking unit, but lacks a brew press guage and ideally a temp readout like the Minore. The Minore has all the features but the huge black feet looks bad. The VBM is a nice balance, but Im disappointed the Australian model comes without the small light to indicate water is low.

          Then on the other hand, I need to consider my wife who just whats to press a button.

          Im confused!!

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            Gday Ren,
            the most important thing is that you have to be happy with your purchase. Youre going to spend a lot of time looking at it and using it, so make sure you like it, its feet included .
            If you like the Minore and its got the features you like (except for the ugly feet of course), get it. Im sure you could get some nicer replacement feet, or get some machined for you.
            Im sure this has been mentioned ad-infinitum, but make sure you have good service back up for the machine. If something goes wrong with it, you want some one who will help you out. The site sponsors excell at this, hence the numerous recommendations that people give them .
            As for your wife, maybe you could do a barista course together and she can learn the joys of having a coffee prepared by her very own hands, rather than relying on a machine. That takes all the fun out of it ;D.
            Good luck with it.

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              Originally posted by Ren link=1156854772/0#4 date=1156858706

              Then on the other hand, I need to consider my wife who just whats to press a button.

              Im confused!!
              I know what you mean :

              I just make myself "on call" for coffees as required!

              The difference in quality between coffee produced by a relatively manual machine (including an "auto") and a superauto - press the button machine- is huge...

              Its a bit like comparing coffee produced by a plunger (with quality fresh ground beans) and instant coffee.....

              A good quality manual machine will last you a lifetime - the same cant be said of the superautos.... too many fiddly bits- too much to go wrong.

              So if you can go down the manual route.... both your taste buds (and your wallet when you look at total cost of ownership - over a few years) will appreciate your choice.

              Take your wife to a shop which will demonstrate a superauto (including give you a taste of the product ) and then go to a local site sponsor and try a coffee from a manual!

              Im sure your wife will be convinced. I know mine was (enough to allow me to buy and install the La Cimbali in "her" kitchen!) ;D

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                Originally posted by Lovey link=1156854772/0#5 date=1156903212
                Gday Ren,
                the most important thing is that you have to be happy with your purchase. Youre going to spend a lot of time looking at it and using it, so make sure you like it, its feet included  .
                If you like the Minore and its got the features you like (except for the ugly feet of course), get it. Im sure you could get some nicer replacement feet, or get some machined for you.
                Im sure this has been mentioned ad-infinitum, but make sure you have good service back up for the machine. If something goes wrong with it, you want some one who will help you out. The site sponsors excell at this, hence the numerous recommendations that people give them  .
                As for your wife, maybe you could do a barista course together and she can learn the joys of having a coffee prepared by her very own hands, rather than relying on a machine. That takes all the fun out of it  ;D.
                Good luck with it.
                Agreed Ren- good to be careful with this type of purchase....

                FYI the Minore II demo is still on the bench and is for sale now at a fantastic discount...

                2mcm

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                • #9
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                  2 cents worth from Moi: As a Minore II owner, I have to say that it is fantastic and I chose it over an ECM machine because of the temp and pressure gauges and the MONSTER drip tray which really minimises drippy trips to the sink.  :P These features sold me, and I dont have an aesthetics issue with the industrial leg design.

                  My partner has a coffee snob palate, but had no technical experience in making coffee, yet the mano very competently operates the machina (when I am not guarding my territory!) and has no problems pulling a decent shot and microfoaming. The operation of these machines is relatively simple, and im sure the coffee she will learn to make on a manual machine will push all of her buttons.  

                  If it is a HX in Melbourne you are after, I bought my Brewtus from 2MCM/ Talk Coffee, I recommend going in and trying out the machines with your wife, so you have a relative basis of comparison and she is involved in the purchase from the start - less compromising to do later  :  Having your vendor in proximity is always going to be an advantage over the life of the machine.

                  Polly

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                    Agree with all the above.
                    Trust me after they see and taste what a good machine does best, they will love it. They are very sexy, far more so than a push a button, females go for looks most of the time (except with their fine selection of men)... or thered be no fashion industry

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                      Originally posted by LiquidHeaven link=1156854772/0#9 date=1156906981
                      Females go for looks most of the time (except with their fine selection of men)... or thered be no fashion industry  
                      LiquidHeaven - with the greatest of respect, there are quite a few women on this forum, and while I realise this comment is an attempt at humour, I find it fairly offensive to be portrayed as a superficial idiot because I am a female. Last time I checked, the money I spent on high end prosumer equiptment and the skills I apply to it are as valid as if I had a penis.   :-?

                      CSers on this forum pride themselves, from the comments ive read in my time here, on being friendly and inclusive - perhaps everyone can be a bit mindful of the gals when posting comments which make us a sum of our parts!

                      Polly

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                        Originally posted by Baristacrat link=1156854772/0#10 date=1156908814
                        Originally posted by LiquidHeaven link=1156854772/0#9 date=1156906981
                        Females go for looks most of the time (except with their fine selection of men)... or thered be no fashion industry  
                        LiquidHeaven - with the greatest of respect, there are quite a few women on this forum, and while I realise this comment is an attempt at humour, I find it fairly offensive to be portrayed as a superficial idiot because I am a female. Last time I checked, the money I spent on high end prosumer equiptment and the skills I apply to it are as valid as if I had a penis.   :-?

                        CSers on this forum pride themselves, from the comments ive read in my time here, on being friendly and inclusive - perhaps everyone can be a bit mindful of the gals when posting comments which make us a sum of our parts!

                        Polly
                        ....which is a good reminder to all to ensure that the brain is engaged before putting the mouth into gear...

                        CS is very much enhanced by the fact that its not just a boys club...We have many female members who bring a wealth of knowledge and experience to us and the forum is all the better for diversity- of bits and of opinion....

                        Lets ensure that we play nice....

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Baristacrat link=1156854772/0#10 date=1156908814
                          Originally posted by LiquidHeaven link=1156854772/0#9 date=1156906981
                          Females go for looks most of the time (except with their fine selection of men)... or thered be no fashion industry


                          LiquidHeaven - with the greatest of respect, there are quite a few women on this forum, and while I realise this comment is an attempt at humour, I find it fairly offensive to be portrayed as a superficial idiot because I am a female. Last time I checked, the money I spent on high end prosumer equiptment and the skills I apply to it are as valid as if I had a penis. :-?

                          CSers on this forum pride themselves, from the comments ive read in my time here, on being friendly and inclusive - perhaps everyone can be a bit mindful of the gals when posting comments which make us a sum of our parts!

                          Polly
                          Well said Polly,

                          You have my support and that of the vast majority of the membership Im sure,

                          Mal.

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                          • #14
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                            How did you go Ren?
                            Have you managed to narrow down your selection at all?
                            Were all excited, another one in the trap

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                            • #15
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                              Nice turn of phrase Polly...a well reasoned argument

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