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  • #31
    Re: Krups Quality??

    Wrong again mate, I own a PA hire business, im not in sales.
    And if you read my post again I did mention that Nespresso coffe is expensive to buy!!

    And how many times have you people mentioned in this forum that "taste" is subjective.
    I like fresh ground coffe, I like instatnt coffee, I like Nespresso coffee, I like those instant lattes in a packet "just add hot water" coffees.
    I like coffe in all its forms, so I guess Im just not a Snob. Poor me hey!!

    And you seem to have missed my point. The Nespresso system WILL make a better cup of coffee than an all in one automatic machine.

    I appreciate things for what they are, you cant compare every product to a certain reference point. The Nespresso system for what it is, is a great comcept for people who want "decent" coffe at a very high convinience. The majority of people who buy Nespresso machines are corporate business people with plenty of money. They want is good and quick, and no mess.

    And all that being said, I will still be buying an Expobar sometime this year, and still be enjoying my "other" system.

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    • #32
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      I have an Italian mate who likes them for his business machine for convenience. I have tried it at Myer once out of curiosity made by a Sales Manager for Nespresso and it tasted pretty ordinary and I agree that non-one on this site is likely to go with it. I will probably land myself in trouble again but why do you say that this guy is, in effect, not kosha?

      Cheers

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      • #33
        Re: Krups Quality??

        Originally posted by ozscott link=1166644274/30#31 date=1167647309
        I have an Italian mate who likes them for his business machine for convenience.  I have tried it at Myer once out of curiosity made by a Sales Manager for Nespresso and it tasted pretty ordinary and I agree that non-one on this site is likely to go with it.  I will probably land myself in trouble again but why do you say that this guy is, in effect, not kosha?

        Cheers
        Whos "This guy is, in effect, not kosha" ?

        And in Nespressos defence, I dont know what blend you had at Meyer, but a few of them are horrid. Theres only 3 of them I buy, and they are great.

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        • #34
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          I was referring to 2MCMs comments about you Skamp re spam and working for Nespresso etc

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          • #35
            Re: Krups Quality??

            Originally posted by ozscott link=1166644274/30#33 date=1167648149
            I was referring to 2MCMs comments about you Skamp re spam and working for Nespresso etc
            Ahh OK, thats what i thought.

            I found it funny that he blammed me for spamming considering this forum is basically controlied by the sponsors............ :-?

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            • #36
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              I think it is more that we have seen a rash of spamming lately - combined with the fact that a lot of coffee snobs have trouble swallowing the idea of a Nespresso system as a way to get quality coffee. You are of course correct in saying that the taste is subjective but that opinion would be a hard one to put in to play here.

              I dont know how a pod system would compare to other superauto machines - I do know that tying yourself to a single coffee supplier can be a bad move.

              I would also argue that you can never get a great coffee from a machine that relies on coffee that by its means of production must certainly be somewhat less than fresh.

              As a convenience concept - terrific. As a coffee concept - bleugh!

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              • #37
                Re: Krups Quality??

                hey CJ...to cut through all the cr#p, if you can afford it, buy a Giotto or an Expobar (the Expobar isnt anywhere near the build quality of the Giotto, I compared both side by side at anevilnonsponsorwhoshallnotbenamedforfearofincurri ngthewraithofthesitesponsorgods
                If thats a bit rich, buy a Silvia
                DONT buy a Nespressocrappa nor a fullyautoallyoucaneatamatic, youll resell it on a certain auction site like everyone else does.
                most of all, enjoy ;D

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                • #38
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                  Good one GW!!

                  Be your own man CJ and try things for yourself and make up your own mind.

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                  • #39
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                    I think the biggest problem with trying to work out what is a "good" coffee is the frame of reference people are using.

                    Many (probably most other than CoffeeSnobs!) have never had a truly great coffee. They go to their local cafe where the beans are stale and the espresso comes out in a 10 second gusher..... and think that is what a good coffee should taste like.

                    Compared to that, just about any coffee machine and a modicum of care will make something which is pretty good.

                    So for those who are contemplating a fully auto or a pod / Nespresso type machine - first go to a good cafe (there are several threads here which will point you in the right direction) and do some reference tasting. Then see how the machine you are interested in stacks up to the quality of a good coffee.

                    Some might still prefer the different taste (and yes, it will be different) that you will get from these "auto" machines and, if that is the case- fine. But do your research first so you have a real frame of reference so you are not judging against something marginally better than instant coffee.

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                    • #40
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                      I dont care what peoples opinions of nespresso are, but its considerably better than instant.......

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                      • #41
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                        Originally posted by Skamp link=1166644274/30#39 date=1167715013
                        I dont care what peoples opinions of nespresso are, but its considerably better than intant.......
                        .... :-?

                        Agreed- and I think that youd find instant drinking CSers are an extremely rare breed...if not extinct...Just because its better doesnt mean its good

                        That statement sorta makes me wonder what youre posting here for if you dont want opinions? Perhaps youre just an aspiring troll then??

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by Skamp link=1166644274/30#30 date=1167646902
                          Wrong again mate, I own a PA hire business, im not in sales.
                          And if you read my post again I did mention that Nespresso coffe is expensive to buy!!

                          And how many times have you people mentioned in this forum that "taste" is subjective.
                          I like fresh ground coffe, I like instatnt coffee, I like Nespresso coffee, I like those instant lattes in a packet "just add hot water" coffees.
                          I like coffe in all its forms, so I guess Im just not a Snob. Poor me hey!!

                          And you seem to have missed my point. The Nespresso system WILL make a better cup of coffee than an all in one automatic machine.

                          I appreciate things for what they are, you cant compare every product to a certain reference point.

                          The Nespresso system for what it is, is a great comcept for people who want "decent" coffe at a very high convinience. The majority of people who buy Nespresso machines are corporate business people with plenty of money. They want is good and quick, and no mess.

                          And all that being said, I will still be buying an Expobar sometime this year, and still be enjoying my "other" system.
                          Skamp you said "you cant compare every product to a certain reference point".
                          I have to disagree. That IS how you compare.

                          You also said you like coffee in all its forms yet also said "The Nespresso system for what it is, is a great comcept for people who want "decent" coffe at a very high convinience."

                          So would you please list, in order, your coffee forms preferences from lowest to highest and let me know where "decent" kicks in?

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                          • #43
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                            Excellent Thundergod...I think its high time for a little auditing on this thread! ;D

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                            • #44
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                              You seem to be a nasty bunch of people in this forum. I just tried to be helpful to the thread starter giving him an option to buying a fully automatic machine, but instead I get accused of trolling and spamming. I like Nespresso coffee, I like "Snob" style coffee as well. I really dont know what you problem is.
                              I went to cosmorex to get a taste of a properly done espresso to get some sort of starting point so I can get my cappucinos to taste the way they should be tasting, and the shot they made me there tasted terrible to me. But that wasnt because it was a bad shot, it was because I loath black coffee. So just because that shot to me was bad tasting, by your snobs logic, it must be bad coffee. So in saying that, you opinion on nespresso is the same as mine from the cosmorex shot.
                              If I was purly a shot drinker, I might agree with your opinions on nespresso, but some of the capuccinos i have made with the nespresso system have been the best Taisting Coffee drinks I have tasted, way better than any thing I have made with my EM6900, and I can pull a decent shot on it.

                              And what I meant about a reference point is that you can go insane trying to compare everything to your reference point. I accept things for what they are, not trying to compare it to something else. Instsant coffee is what it is, instant coffee. It has its own taste and youll either love it or hate it. I like good coffee as much  you guys do, but i also like the so called"bad" coffee as well. thats if you can call it bad coffe, its just different.

                              There are times when I just want to get off the couch, go over to the nespresso machine and make a coffee without worrying about the technique of making coffee, and the mess of it, and i still get what "I" consider a good cup of coffee.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Krups Quality??

                                We switched from a Nespresso machine at the office to a Saeco super-auto, and while the output is still pretty awful compared to my (fairly low-end) home setup, its definitely better than the Nespresso. I think super-autos have their place -- in a small office environment theyre probably the only practical way youre ever going to get anything remotely resembling espresso, and considering the crimes against coffee that some guys at the office commit with the super-auto (like running 200ml through a shot, and topping it off with boiled milk), I shudder to think what theyd manage with a semi-auto and grinder setup.

                                The problem with a super-auto at home is that if you care even a little about the quality of what youre drinking (and if you hang around here, you will soon enough!), youll out-grow it very quickly. A semi-auto and grinder is definitely more work, but it quickly becomes second nature, and as you ride that learning curve you very quickly surpass the plateau youd hit using a super-auto. Im finding thats one of the real joys of coffee -- its not just an end product, but a never ending cycle of learning and experimentation, where theres always something new to try.

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