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    Hi There,

    Well, Ive finally gone and done it. After several years with my olde-krups thermoblock machines (a Novo 4000 and artese4), Ive finally mustered up the courage to buy a real machine (Rancilio Silvia) and take my coffee making to the next level.

    (yes Ive already got a great Burr grinder so thats covered)

    Thanks in arrears to all contributors on the site, the threads and advice here were amazingly helpful and assisted me make a decision Im very, very happy with so far. With a good machine and setup Im looking forward to polishing my technique.

    One question though, I purchased a "Naked" portafilter to help me on my quest for the perfect shot. I found a few on the web and ordered one (Australian site, I can provide vendor details if you like). It arrived today and I was astonished with how bad the finish was and there was no 21 gram basket.

    Now, after checking the site I realized it was partially my bad, the 21 gram basket comes with pretty much every OTHER naked portafilter except the Rancilio, but where the portafilter had been cut to make it "naked" does not really look like the "precision machining" Id expect it to be or was claimed (in fact the way it was hacked off was so bad I cut myself on the rough edges unwrapping the darned thing .... let alone using it !!!)

    see attached photo,

    my questions are
    a) am I being too picky ? is this typical of what I can / should expect buying a portafilter of this kind. Should I just chalk it up to experience, grab a file and "man-up" about it all.
    b) if the answer is no, can anyone suggest a decent vendor in Australia for portafilters etc. that sell better quality ?

    Thanks in Advance

    Mark
    (Shoeminator)


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    Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

    Originally posted by shoeminator link=1219749376/0#0 date=1219749376
    Hi There,

    Well, Ive finally gone and done it. After several years with my olde-krups thermoblock machines (a Novo 4000 and artese4), Ive finally mustered up the courage to buy a real machine (Rancilio Silvia) and take my coffee making to the next level.

    (yes Ive already got a great Burr grinder so thats covered)

    Thanks in arrears to all contributors on the site, the threads and advice here were amazingly helpful and assisted me make a decision Im very, very happy with so far. With a good machine and setup Im looking forward to polishing my technique.

    One question though, I purchased a "Naked" portafilter to help me on my quest for the perfect shot. I found a few on the web and ordered one (Australian site, I can provide vendor details if you like). It arrived today and I was astonished with how bad the finish was and there was no 21 gram basket.

    Now, after checking the site I realized it was partially my bad, the 21 gram basket comes with pretty much every OTHER naked portafilter except the Rancilio, but where the portafilter had been cut to make it "naked" does not really look like the "precision machining" Id expect it to be or was claimed (in fact the way it was hacked off was so bad I cut myself on the rough edges unwrapping the darned thing .... let alone using it !!!)

    see attached photo,

    my questions are
    a) am I being too picky ? is this typical of what I can / should expect buying a portafilter of this kind. Should I just chalk it up to experience, grab a file and "man-up" about it all.
    b) if the answer is no, can anyone suggest a decent vendor in Australia for portafilters etc. that sell better quality ?

    Thanks in Advance

    Mark
    (Shoeminator)
    As to part A: As a fitter and Turner and in addition to not only looking at Gregs  (Site sponsor) work on Naked PFs as well as purchasing one for my EM6910, I would suggest that the machining; on first inspection, looks a little rough.  It also looks like it may have been machined with out finishing and that some one has banged / thumped the bottom in such a way that it has bruised / placed the nicks in ( Not 100% a machining fault as such, but rather due to the lack of forethought and a clean bevel / finish etc). However with out a full inspection, it is just a impression.

    As to part B:  See Greg Pullman   (Site Sponsor) , he may be able to assist.

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    • #3
      Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

      (sigh!) thats kind of what I suspected. Thanks for the confirmation. Bit disappointing but at least now I know why the Photo on their site was so small :-(

      I wasnt really expecting to shell out $95.00 (including postage) for something this badly finished (and I certainly wasnt expecting to start bleeding profusely when unwrapping a portafilter from a commercial vendor website !!!! (the company in question is a sponsor of this site so Ill keep their name out of it for now till I see what they can do to resolve the situation).

      Looked at Gregs site, seems hes only doing naked portafilters for the Sunbeam :-( (Saving for a tamper from him as we speak .... all in good time ....). Pity as looking at his products he does excellent work !

      Thanks

      Mark

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      • #4
        Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

        Thats really disappointing Mark.

        The good thing though is that if its from a site sponsor, Im sure theyd want to know and put things right, so suggest you give them a call.

        All the best!

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        • #5
          Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

          Yeah that one doesnt look liked it was machined on a lathe. It looks more like someone attacked it with a wholesaw. Trust me I know what it looks like . Yeah its not finished very well, but its nothing that a bit of wetndry wont solve. Itll make it plush in no time.

          Coffeeparts have em, (I think youll find cheaper than you paid), and I know Di Bartolis have them, Im sure other sponsors have them too.

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          • #6
            Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

            Gday "shoeminator",

            Welcome to CoffeeSnobs mate....

            If I was the recipient of this PF, the first thing Id be doing is to get back in touch with the vendor and explain that youre not happy with the quality of the product. If the vendor is a reputable one Im sure they would be only too happy to sort things out properly for you.

            All the best Mark,
            Mal.

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            • #7
              Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

              Thanks All,

              Have taken your advice, emailed the Vendor and will follow up by phone tomorrow.

              Will let you all know how it goes.

              Thanks Again

              Cheers....

              Mark

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              • #8
                Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

                Hey

                I as well will buying a naked portafilter in the very near future,

                Does anyone have any recommendation/experiences of where to buy

                a quality naked portafilter?


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                • #9
                  Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

                  You can always roll your own naked PF. All you need is a drill, file, wet and dry sandpaper to finish it off. 2-3 hours should do it nicely with these tools. If you are lucky and have a die grinder or Dremel then it should take less than that. I have seen a good thread on Home Barista. http://www.home-barista.com/forums/h...ter-t1437.html

                  Best option would be a mill but most of us dont have one in our sheds

                  Depends on how much you value your time and if you have a spare PF to start with as to if it is worth the effort.

                  As to the piece of junk at the top it looks like they used a hole saw and forgot to finish it off. Send it back, if they wont take it back name and shame here I think.  [smiley=evil.gif]

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                  • #10
                    Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

                    Yeah I took to mine with a holesaw (exact size) and finished it off with wetndry. Took me all of 15mins. It can be done right with a holesaw, but I reckon its easier to stuff it up unless you know what youre doing.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

                      Loos like theyre giving a refund. According to the gent I spoke to all the ones in stock dont have the problems I described and photographed. So either Im extremely unlucky and there was only one "roughy" or .....

                      Still, Now I can hunt for a better unit.

                      Thanks again everyone.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

                        For the record, have seen some awesome machined and re-chromed units in the US and Canada that with postage work out less than buying from a local vendor here - and they throw in a 21g basket !?!!

                        I feel a little dirty saying it (I prefer to buy local and support the local guys) but given I cant find a comperable item in Australia its looking pretty atractive :-(

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                        • #13
                          Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

                          *edit* ... nothing to see here ...

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                          • #14
                            Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

                            Andrew

                            Looks like a bit of chatter as well. Not ideal and could have even been damaged if it has popped out of the chuck or the vice etc depending on the lathe or milling machine they were using.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Naked Portafilter (and belated thanks)

                              Gday "Gmk2"...

                              Can you resize the images in your post above please, theyre a bit large. Prefer that all images fit within a 640(W) x 480(H) maximum window as this seems to be the best compromise between detail resolution and the need to wear out the scroll wheel.

                              Thanks mate,
                              Mal.

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