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  • Rusty
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    Originally posted by 7D666F797A770E0 link=1253774275/18#18 date=1254116595
    Keep me posted on the improvement (or not) if you wouldnt mind as Ive been thinking about doing this myself.
    Hi Todd,

    The Pullman Barista plus Synesso basket are the best investment Ive made in accessories ;D

    Improved coffee - easier tamping and a joy to use.

    Go for it Todd

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  • Rusty
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    So the larger dose seems to be the clue.

    Except for this morning when my wife was out I always pull doubles. I have updosed as much as possible with the SB basket so Im looking forward to the slightly larger Synesso improving my shots, not to mention a certain Barista tamper

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  • gregpullman
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    From your comments Im presuming youre using the single basket for a single cup of coffee, and the double basket for two cups of coffee. Youre correct that single baskets normally hold more than half a double, and if youre using the baskets this way youre extracting the shot from a larger volume of coffee per cup. This typically give you a richer, sweeter and less bitter shot. However youll get even better results again by ditching the single basket altogether and using the double basket exclusively. Most folk round here do that and find by extracting the same amount of espresso out of a larger amount of coffee you get a much richer, sweeter and less bitter shot.

    Single baskets also have some inherent design problems for which theyre often avoided - have a read through http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1169781510/ if you want more info on that.

    Greg

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  • Rusty
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    Originally posted by 7D666F797A770E0 link=1253774275/18#18 date=1254116595
    Keep me posted on the improvement (or not) if you wouldnt mind as Ive been thinking about doing this myself.
    Hi Todd,

    I mentioned in another thread that I used the single basket for the first time this morning and the shot was better than Ive had from the double. I measured the capacity of both baskets and found the single held a lot more pro rata than the double. I figured this meant I updosed more in the single and that gave a better shot.

    The Synesso holds more than the Sunbeam so Im looking for the same improvement there plus whatever a better tamper contributes ;D

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  • shawty
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    Hey Rusty,
    Keep me posted on the improvement (or not) if you wouldnt mind as Ive been thinking about doing this myself.
    Thanks.

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  • Rusty
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    Decision made and acted upon

    Just ordered a Pullman Barista tamper plus a Synesso basket.

    Thanks to all who pointed me in the right direction and thanks to Greg for his patient and wise counsel

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  • gregpullman
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    If its only a small radius I wouldnt be too worried about it. People use convex tampers which essentially have one massive radius. Its probably more important to minimise the clearance between the tamper and basket wall so all of the puck gets tamped rather than leaving an untamped rim.

    I guess it really comes down to: For factory tampers you could do a lot worse than a SB unit; for aftermarket ones you could do a lot better.

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  • shawty
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    Thanks for that Greg,
    I will assume that the slightly rounded corner at the bottom outer edge would make it less effective as well.

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  • gregpullman
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    0.5mm is pretty good, SB have obviously taken some of the feedback on and bumped up the size of the tamper. Its actually a better fit than youll get with most off-the-shelf expensive tampers as these are normally made to 58.0mm. The ones we make are machine-specific whenever possible, and for the 6910 we certainly go larger than 58.35mm.

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  • shawty
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    Hi Rusty,
    I have a trade background as a printing machinist and am still involved in a printing company where I wear lots of different hats.

    I measured mine with digital calipers as well, but ones I bought to build slot cars.

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  • Rusty
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    Hi Todd,

    Mine comes up the same as yours - measured by my toolmaker son with his digital calipers.

    He wants to know what you do for a living and what you measured with.

    Cheers,

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  • shawty
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    Hi, I have a Sunbeam 6910.
    Just measured the double basket (58.85mm) & tamper (58.35mm)
    Would 0.5mm be considered a decent fit or not.
    If not, what sort of play is good?

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  • gregpullman
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    As we machine tampers, not baskets, Id need to know the diameter of the Synesso triple to be able to do that. We dont carry triples at this time because they dont fit most normal portafilters and are a lot larger in diameter than doubles and singles, which would complicate supplying a tamper to someone who orders a triple and a double or single.

    At best I could tell you about how loose your existing tamper is likely to be in a triple (I have two Synesso triple samples)

    Greg

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  • Rusty
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    Originally posted by 223720223530292928242B450 link=1253774275/7#7 date=1253835087
    The serial numbers obviously dont make a scrap of difference to the result in the cup directly, theyre mainly there for our benefit. We keep records of the dimensions of all our tampers which helps us deal with situations like:
    * a mate has tamper #xyz and it fits my baskets, can I have one the same
    * I bought this tamper from you a few years ago and Im about to get a xyz machine - is it likely to fit?
    * I left my tamper at work and someones borrowed it - can I get another one the same size?
    * I have a xyz machine, do you know what size tamper it should require?

    If you noticed, each of those scenarios is a customer request. As such, you do benefit indirectly from the serial numbers, but only in that they allow us to maximise the value of our records and provide you a more precise service.

    Greg  

    Yep, thats what I figured.

    I am impressed by your attention to detail.  I am wavering in favour of your product over the Espro Click  8-)

    Any users wish to comment?

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  • WSullivan
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    Hi-jacking for one second, Greg, if i gave you my number, could you match a synesso tripple to it? well near enough? its for a naked.....cheers, PM would be fine

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