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    Was wondering what the thoughts are on a Rancilio Audrey? Are the Silvias the same or a upgraded version? Can I still get parts for them? Am I buying an item that is too old and troublesome? I found one pretty cheap and after asking about the Nemox thought this might be of interest. Would the Nemox Napoletana be better still?
    Limited budget at the moment(well for a while) and need to upgrade the Breville.
    Thanks once again for your help and thoughts.
    Sorry for the different questions. Would love to have a bigger budget.
    regards.
    Andrew

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    Re: Rancilio Audrey

    Originally posted by vast524 link=1163732838/0#0 date=1163732837
    Was wondering what the thoughts are on a Rancilio Audrey? Are the Silvias the same or a upgraded version? Can I still get parts for them? Am I buying an item that is too old and troublesome? I found one pretty cheap and after asking about the Nemox thought this might be of interest. Would the Nemox Napoletana be better still?
    Limited budget at the moment(well for a while) and need to upgrade the Breville.
    Thanks once again for your help and thoughts.
    Sorry for the different questions. Would love to have a bigge budget.
    regards.
    Andrew
    Andrew- theyre a great little machine! Consider the Audrey to be a Silvia with different clothing and identical performance. I prefer the Audrey steam wand (straight and on a ball joint) over that of the Silvia..

    If the unit has been well maintained, Id grab it.

    2mcm

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      Re: Rancilio Audrey

      Hi Andrew,

      My understanding from the reviews on coffeegeek.com is that its basically the same as a Silvia but in a pretty ugly body. If you can get past the looks of it its on par with the Silvia. Which way you go depends on how much they each are, your available budget and whether the convenience / less bench clutter of the built-in grinder on the Nemox has any value to you. I know thats one thing Im going to miss when I get rid of my Napoletana.

      Greg

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        Re: Rancilio Audrey

        ...and 2mcm beats pullman over the line by a nose!

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          Are they the same interally? ie. Brass boiler, boiler size, water tank....?
          Do they suffer the same temp problems as the Silvia?
          Parts, and gaskets a problem getting?
          Thanks Greg and 2MCM for your thought s and comments.
          I am on a very steep learning curve.
          Wanting the best for as little as possible.
          Would the Audrey be better than the Nemox Napolatena?
          I all ready have a Breville Burr grinder.
          Regards
          Andrew

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            Re: Rancilio Audrey

            greg, you may not have to miss out on the grinder - http://www.rancilio.com/rancilio/pro...id_category=11

            Have you considered Lucy? No idea on availability etc.

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              Yep have thought about Lucy (or Kathy for that matter) but theyre very thin on the ground and their ridiculous retail price would probably keep their 2nd hand value too high. For $1300 I could get a good 2nd hand Silvia and a new Mazzer mini! That said, if one came up at a good price Id certainly consider it

              Now thats interesting; I checked their site Wednesday and they only had Silvia, Rocky and the combo. Id also heard they were dropping the Lucy. Interesting theyve now got it online. Perhaps theyll bring the price down too??? Looks like an updated model too if Im not mistaken - has the same group surround as the new Silvia! Yessss, new Lucy for <$1k here I come ..... :

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                Actually what Id like to know is, if you click on the photo gallery and go to the last photo, whether Lucy comes standard with the shown levitating milk jug to reduce RSI? I wonder if it automatically drops its levitation level to ensure perfect microfoam?

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                  I was thinking of the Lucy before I finally decided on what to get.

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                    Re: Rancilio Audrey

                    Originally posted by vast524 link=1163732838/0#4 date=1163735782
                    Are they the same interally? ie. Brass boiler, boiler size, water tank....?
                    Do they suffer the same temp problems as the Silvia?
                    Parts, and gaskets a problem getting?
                    Thanks Greg and 2MCM for your thought s and comments.
                    I am on a very steep learning curve.
                    Wanting the best for as little as possible.
                    Would the Audrey be better than the Nemox Napolatena?
                    I all ready have a Breville Burr grinder.
                    Regards
                    Andrew
                    Hi there, Andrew!

                    Just to reiterate what the others have said, this sounds like a good deal if you dont mind the looks.

                    The silvia leads the pack in the three-digit machines because it:

                    (a) has a 58mm commercial portafilter, so it holds a decent amount of coffee and you can switch to other commercial baskets if you wish

                    (b) has a simple, one-holed steam wand without a "froth aider" - thats a plastic attachment that, ironically, makes it almost impossible to get decent milk

                    (c) is made of simple, high-quality parts that are readily available, so with some parts replacements and TLC there is no reason why the machine shouldnt last more or less for eternity

                    Points (a) and (b), IMHO, make the silvia a better machine for the money than the napoletana.

                    Like the others, I also remember hearing that the audrey is more or less internally identical to a silvia, but I cant confirm that. If it is, a second-hand audrey is probably the best value machine that you could possibly buy.

                    I dont think that its fair to characterise silvias as having "temp problems." Yes, the machine has to be temperature surfed and, yes, thats enough of a PITA that I sold mine, but more or less every single-boiler machine uses the same sort of thermostat, so temperature management should be similar on most similar machines. Its just that people write about it A LOT on the internet when they talk about their silvias. My theory is that the silvia attracts people who like to tinker!

                    Unfortunately, your grinder probably isnt going to cut it for espresso. Period. The cheapest grinder that I would touch for espresso is the Iberital Challenge.

                    I hope thats helpful ...

                    Luca

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