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  • #16
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    Hey Linzoid,

    Love the tamper ... practical and has its own unique style .. top marks for thinking outside the standard day to day design. 

    Maybe you should further develeop the see-through tamper idea .. even if its only for a bit of fun it may be nice to see the effects of a tamp real time as you tamp.

    Nice effort !
    BB

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    • #17
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      Thanks BB . . . what about a see through moka pot? One could witness the whole extraction process as it happens.

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      • #18
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        Maybe get some resin or even super glue to fill in the philips head slots and then sand flat for a complete flat finish.

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        • #19
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          i have the pullman tamper and just love it. i find the mass of the head is helpful to level the coffee whn i bang the side of the group head with it. you dont get that effect with a plastic tamper

          Originally posted by 414443574244492D0 link=1310874246/0#0 date=1310874245
          Hello everybody . . my very first post - a question. Forgive me if this has been covered already, I havent had time to read everything yet, quite a bit to cover. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but here goes; whats the deal with tampers? Why do some people pay large amounts of money for tampers - are they a fashion statement? I made mine from 5mm perspex and a drawer knob, seems to do the job . . photo attached. Cheers, Lindsay.

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          • #20
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            Just got my Pullman Barista Tamper in Burgundy Red today! 

            I think the answer to your question "Why do some people pay large amounts of money for tampers" is bling and precision. 

            I have been having a hard time getting an even tamp with my EAZYTAMP tamper. Finally I measured the basket with a digital caliper after several emails with Greg Pullman and turns out my basket at its smallest diameter was 59.05mm.  After replacing the basket to one measuring 58.4mm I noticed an increase in crema of about 30% and a much more smoother pour.  Well my double basket is measured at 58.8...

            Greg helped me every step of the way (thanks Greg for the patience), and I ended up getting an available scratch and dent option at 58.25mm which was essentially perfect (Greg pointed out the flaws which was in no way noticeable unless pointed out and even then youre like..."huh?"). The additional interchangeable spacers are very thoughtful and great to accomodate almost all sized hands. Overall, very happy with the purchase  ;D My last email to Greg...

            "Thanks Greg! Its beautiful and feels great in the hand. Very similar to a racing gear stick. Now to break the news to my wife...I might hide it for a while  :-/"

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            • #21
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              hello, is it worthy to pay close to 100 US bucks for a click tamper ? those that make a sound when your reach a specific weight pressure.

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              • #22
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                I think the precise fit of the tamper to the basket is more critical than the "click" function. This is where the Pullman tampers are great, as they are custom fitted to either your baskets or theirs if you buy them together, not sure who else does this. Then there is the look, materials, comfort etc that is a personal choice I guess.

                In my experience, the thing that affects the flow most is the grind and the dose. The tamp pressure for me has not really influenced it much at all, ie I tamp "firmly" and try to be consistent, but if its harder or softer, it only affects the flow by an insignificant amount compared to when you dose a bit more, which has a pronounced effect.

                Hope that makes sense.

                I think its worthwhile investing in a decent tamper and baskets, it makes it so much easier to be consistent and you can keep the baskets/tamper if you change to another 58mm machine in the future.

                Also, when I first got my machine, and wasnt informed, I bought a generic tamper, which was less than 1mm smaller than the basket, ie it fitted ok to me. But this imprecise fit gave me headaches in getting a nice extraction, as the puck was not compacted uniformly either completely around the circumference or on one side if I didnt centre the tamper fully. So in hindsight, it was a waste of 30 or 40 bucks (cant recall exact amount), should have put that towards something decent.

                Cheers

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                • #23
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                  I had a Espro click tamper and it was good and gave me the feel for how hard I was tamping, and it did work well. That said I would save your pennies and just get a quality tamper. You will learn the amount of pressure required and to be honest having the additional hardware in the tamper means the design is less than perfect with regards to ergonomics and being able to handle the tamper.

                  That said alternative systems can deliver a similar quality. For example with the Pullmans if your dose is consistent i.e. flat across the top you can gauge the amount of pressure you use by the number of rings you insert the tamper down into the basket.

                  In my opinion you dont need to tamp the hell out of it. Its more important to get the dose correct and more, more important a level tamp!

                  Now that I have a Pullman. Would I recommend them... Hell Yeah!

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                  • #24
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                    Agree - tamp pressure is MUCH LESS important than correct dose, distribution and an even, level tamp.

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                    • #25
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                      If you really want some audible indication of when youve clicked with the correct force you could always get a click mat.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by 4A7F6E7F29231A0 link=1310874246/23#23 date=1320051355
                        Agree - tamp pressure is MUCH LESS important than correct dose, distribution and an even, level tamp.
                        The point being missed here, is consistency. All components of ones must be consistent in application and the use of a consistent Tamping Force is no more OR less important than all the other aspects of a good technique....

                        Mal.

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                        • #27
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                          Well said Mal! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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                          • #28
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                            If youre spending big bucks on a machine a nice tamper is the perfect finishing touch!

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by 63564756000A330 link=1310874246/23#23 date=1320051355
                              Agree - tamp pressure is MUCH LESS important than correct dose, distribution and an even, level tamp.
                              How about if your tamper had a lip on it that limited the depth of the tamp, say 7mm or whatever, then you would have a level consistant tamp and use grind and weight to adjust pour? this is from a newbie who is having trouble 

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                              • #30
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                                But then your tamper may bottom out before the coffee is tamped sufficiently. If you spin your tamper 90 degrees after tamping, with your fingertips past the tamper edge and on the basket edge, you will easily feel if you are not tamping level.

                                Cheers

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