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  • #16
    Re: Coffee Machine Gripes

    Originally posted by scoota gal link=1167630604/0#10 date=1167683110


    Originally posted by robusto link=1167630604/0#0 date=1167630604
    -A little more room for pitcher under the steam wand would be appreciated.

    Do you not have your Silvia on the nemox tray, Robusto? I find that it gives the machine a better height and heaps of room for the jug.

    Sorry to be so long replying, Scootagirl --Ive been away. I sit the machine on an attractive wooden board on rubber feet,  which helps. But otherwise its  a problem.

    --Robusto


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    • #17
      Re: Coffee Machine Gripes

      Ok, adding to the gripes about Silvia:-
      1. Rubber feet are stick on, or in my case fall off. Should be more securely attached.
      2. Factory Q.C. leaves a lot to be desired. Crap left in the boiler to bung up the 3 way.
      3. Better manual, with link to Coffee Snobs [smiley=wink.gif]
      4. A tamper that fits the machine.


      Bruce

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      • #18
        Re: Coffee Machine Gripes

        Expobar Minore II

        As with many other machines - some way of knowing the water level without having to wait for the cutout or lift cup warmer and look would be good.

        Manual it comes with is photocopied and very basic indeed. Seems strange to put that much effort into making a great machine and then just chucking together instructions (perhaps its just the English instructions since it is a Spanish machine).

        The lever could be a fraction more to the right. I sometimes feel the right cup during a double pour is too close. IE: Cant always return lever to down position without clipping the cup. Not a big deal, but I notice it.

        Pretty much love everything else.

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        • #19
          Re: Coffee Machine Gripes

          As an Expobar owner I would agree with what other Expobar owners have already stated.

          Mine is the Semi-auto office model.

          1) No water level indicator

          2) Have to lift cup warmer to check and fill the water reservoir

          3) Rubber pads on feet split and fall off when you move it

          4) Showerscreen sits fairly low which requires a dosing adjustment

          5) Primitive photocopied manual

          So no huge issues but things I have noted along the way. Still love the machine though.

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          • #20
            Re: Coffee Machine Gripes

            Sunbeam Cafe Series 6900:

            1. Could have stronger steam
            2. Could have standard PF
            3. Not really a gripe as such, but warming tray could warm a lot better

            Otherwise, a good entry level machine that has both steam and pour facilities at one time a lot around this price bracket dont, and have had comment after comment from freinds who have been treated to my home grown beans and brew with this machine have come back for more often enough, and pay good homage to my coffee. Dont usually brag, but gee, if it has been proven, why not :

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            • #21
              Re: Coffee Machine Gripes

              Was reading this old thread and think it is a good way to get to the real issues with equipment - not just rehashed sales spin ...

              Nuova Simonelli Oscar

              Gripes -
              1. Have to open steam up everytime you turn on or she doesnt come up to temp properly - a minor issue really.
              2. The drip tray has to be tilted up to remove, leading to spillages if really full. It is not that easy to clean either (sharp corners you cant get into, difficult to remove grill etc)
              3. Front 2 screws attaching the casing attach to the plastic casing around the group, rather than the frame - build quality issue
              4. I find that you have to turn the steam knob too many times to crank her fully open (not sure how this compares to other machines)
              5. I find she jumps around on the bench a little, particularly if updosing, requiring two hands to lock in the portafilter. Again have not used other machines to compare - just my experience.
              6. The switches (the brew switch being the most important) are a bit crappy - the push button variety. You get used to them, but they could be better.

              Im soon to get a Giotto (Oscar is off to work), so am looking forward to experiencing the differences between the top and bottom of the Hx range.

              Tim

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              • #22
                Re: Coffee Machine Gripes

                La Cimbali M30 bistro dt1
                I have the same problem as the junior off Tim, and this is a problem all cimbali’s have
                A locking vacuum valve. It’s not a big problem, and cimbai tried to fix this by using another vacuum valve but that one was worse than the first, and kept leaking. Turn open the steam tap is indeed the best and quickest solution.

                Also the pressure discharge pipe is a bit sh*tty, it works well if you point it well to the drip tray,
                But if you use the cleaning detergent, the foam will overflow the backside of the drip tray, and the detergent will leak in the machine.

                Further, there was a element relay built in what gave a big “klick” when the machine had to heat the water. (Every 4 1/2 minute or so) I removed it and build in solid-state relays (they shift without sound)
                And I also took the 24 v vibration pump out and replaced it for a 220v procon rotation pump.
                The machine is quiet now.

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