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  • Jimmytheboot
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    Thats from a cold start, so the saving increases the longer you leave it on

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  • Werner
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    That site is worth a visit. They measured the energy consumption over 3 hours (idling, not brewing) of various machines before and after insulating the boiler. The energy saving is pretty consistent around 20%

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  • Jimmytheboot
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    I found a german espresso machine/part store willing to sell armaflex ht in small sheets, I found them because of a post on their site showing bezzeras insulated with it (http://www.rimprezza.de/epages/63241...g__was_bringts).

    50cm x 50cm for 15.5 euros and minimum shipping cost of 18 euros

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  • Jimmytheboot
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    Oh right, always getting my inches mixed up

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  • Personality_Juice
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    Originally posted by Jimmytheboot View Post
    Google "pid silvia insulation", looks like 13mm armaflex to me $30 for 60x60mm, not sure what he charges for shipping from the US
    I see what they have there, its 300mm x 300mm x 6mm.

    Not sure that would suit me, but I've emailed them.

    Thanks Jimmy

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  • Jimmytheboot
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    Google "pid silvia insulation", looks like 13mm armaflex to me $30 for 60x60mm, not sure what he charges for shipping from the US

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  • Personality_Juice
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    Yep after 1 week and 5 calls I finally got some prices.
    I am after the 13mm, as I think there's not the room for 19mm inside the BZ99.

    Here's what they told me:
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    19mm - 9H1900CS - $169.26 excl GST
    13mm - 9H1300CS - $175 excl GST

    We currently have in our Melbourne warehouse 3 cartons of 19mm roll only

    13mm roll we would have to bring in from overseas and the cost for sea freight is $330 per carton
    with a lead time of about 6-8 weeks

    Air freight is $440 per carton with a lead time of roughly 2 weeks
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    The 13mm is an 1mx8m roll. 19mm is 1mx6m roll.
    I need about 20cmx30cm!

    So, any ideas? I'm cooling off.

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  • Jimmytheboot
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    Did you get a response?

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  • Personality_Juice
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    I'm on it Jimmy and Paolo,
    I rang them yesterday and they're getting me a price. (understaffed yesterday.)
    I"ll post back here when I have an update, but there should be plenty to go around.

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  • Paolo
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    Hi Jimmytheboot,
    I sold a lot to CS members years ago and have just enough for my next machine. It must be time for a CS member to bite the bullet and order another roll and divide it...

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  • Jimmytheboot
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    Can you spare a meter?

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  • Paolo
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    Hi PJ,
    I ordered it from these guys:-
    Armacell - Local Contacts
    Contact Alex and let him know that the Armaflex HT that he sold to a Coffeesnob 4 or so years ago worked a treat.
    He had to order it from Melbourne. From memory, I could only get a 6 metre roll of the 19mm thick HT. That is enough for a WHOLE LOT of boilers!

    Cheers,
    Paolo
    Last edited by Paolo; 10 September 2012, 09:54 PM.

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  • Personality_Juice
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    Great, thanks guys, I'm definitely looking for the HT,
    Paulo, where did you pick it up?

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  • Paolo
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    I have use Armaflex HT on 4 espresso machines, the oldest installation being around 4 years ago. I have it in 2 of my current machines (both boilers in one of them) and will no doubt install it in my next machine. I thoroughly recommend this product for this application.

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  • GregWormald
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    Go 'up' to the 'stickies' in this forum--there are a variety of tested materials mentioned there.

    Greg

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