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  • #16
    Originally posted by ThankDog View Post

    Also, I posted something earlier and it seems to have disappeared.
    .... a conspiracy ... maybe The Government !!

    I have a fancy tamper from Mr P ... it is very nice, well made and fit for purpose, also looks mega cool. People ask me how much it cost and I blush a little as I tell them, but I see the jealousy in their eyes ... or maybe it's just shock, hard to be sure.

    Tamper can also be used as self defence, quite a bit of weight to it. A tamp to the forehead would dissuade any would be thief from nicking my goodies.

    BBrat

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
      PS- ThankDog- I have a really "special" Pullman ripoff that a Chinese company sent us. It looks just the same. Really it does....$20 just for you
      You're too kind! The Christmas spirit is truly with you

      Originally posted by BeanBrat View Post
      Tamper can also be used as self defence, quite a bit of weight to it. A tamp to the forehead would dissuade any would be thief from nicking my goodies.
      I have a baseball bat and 6'2" of lard to use it with.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ThankDog View Post
        I have a baseball bat and 6'2" of lard to use it with.
        OK... now let's see you make a coffee with it...

        Got me all anxious now to see what the missus got me. Was a bit funny how I found out - she thought all tampers were the same so she ordered what she thought I might like (still don't know) and Mark (Pullman - Things Coffee | Pullman Tamper, Coffee Tamper, VST Filter Basket, VST Refractometer, Hottop, Coffee Roaster, KN-8828B-2) sent her the handle and a request as to what size the basket is. She had to come to me and tell me what she was getting so i could tell her the VST details and she could order the rest of the tamper. *grins*

        I wish I'd been home to see her face when she opened the parcel and saw half a tamper...

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        • #19
          Maybe you could get the handle of the baseball bat machined to fit your basket and you could tamp with it.

          However a nicely weighted tamper is easier to carry around for both self defence and making coffee.

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          • #20
            It's a specialty product with relatively low sales volume. On anyhting like this you're not going to be just paying for the raw materials and cost to produce it.

            It's hopefully a one-off for a machine though, and I can tell you that the two ~$70 tampers I bought were a pleasure to use compared to the light, plasticy ones that came with my machines.

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            • #21
              Everytime I use my brother in laws Breville DB and the standard tamper, it just feels so yucky and cheap compared to the pullman. Have a play with a quality tamper, it like chalk and cheese.

              Cheers

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              • #22
                Speaking as someone who's been using a 58mm Xavier HD tamper that fits to within 1.5mm total D and just got his Pullman in the mail, just find the difference to be significant and wish I'd bought it months ago.

                Testing the VST it came with will have to wait as my flight leaves in an hour.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Dragunov21 View Post
                  Speaking as someone who's been using a 58mm Xavier HD tamper that fits to within 1.5mm total D and just got his Pullman in the mail, just find the difference to be significant and wish I'd bought it months ago.

                  Testing the VST it came with will have to wait as my flight leaves in an hour.
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                  Nice looking tamper Dragunov, Christmas gift to yourself?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                    Nice looking tamper Dragunov, Christmas gift to yourself?
                    Yeah boi.

                    Plus I was getting sick of the VST bickering and wanted to figure it out for myself :P

                    In case anyone's interested, I found that with the xavier, there was dead/slow flow approaching the middle for the first two thirds of the shot. I was able to mitigate it slightly by NSEWing it, but it didn't really fix it. I'd guess that this was caused by the very outer edge of the puck being undertamped relative to the rest.

                    With the Pullman, (which by luck fits my usual triple perfectly), the dead-spot didn't exist, the cone was more voluminous with a slower apparent speed (same flow rate). It blonded noticeably later and did so very evenly.

                    How much this affected the shot's flavor, I won't be able to say until I get back after xmas, since I only poured the one and dumped milk into it (Veneziano Forza, which I dislike black).

                    As can be seen above, the xavier fits pretty well, so the difference was surprising to say the least.

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                    • #25
                      hmmm... guess its time for me to upgrade my tamper too then
                      the Espro that im using now has made my learning process much easier... now its a matter of finding out if my so call "muscle memory" i've developed doesnt have short term memory

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                      • #26
                        Like you needed an excuse, you're always buying new stuff lol...

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                        • #27
                          Are the Espro click tampers any good? I was looking at considering the concept art technic tampers and replace the base with a pullman nexus base. Although I am having difficulty in finding a place in Sydney that stock both to make sure the threads are the same and such a combo would work.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ThankDog View Post
                            Forgive my ignorance, please, but why are tampers so expensive? They seem like little more than machined bits of solid metal. Not exactly worthy of a hundred dollar or more price-tag.

                            What don't I know or understand about these things that make them worth such a price?
                            We sell the range of Cafelat Tampers and they are beautiful, functional, well made and affordable too!
                            CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Cafelat Coffee Accessories

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by javatime View Post
                              Are the Espro click tampers any good?
                              It was a good tool for me to learn by myself as it is difficult to describe "15kg or around that area" pressure, let alone doing it consistently.

                              At the end of the day, it just makes it easier for me to make a shot by having one less variable. All I need to worry about is get my dose and grind finess correct, tamp it down till it click, polish the. I'm done.

                              But then some people just has the knack to pick it up without the need of specialist tool.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by okitoki View Post
                                It was a good tool for me to learn by myself as it is difficult to describe "15kg or around that area" pressure, let alone doing it consistently.

                                At the end of the day, it just makes it easier for me to make a shot by having one less variable. All I need to worry about is get my dose and grind finess correct, tamp it down till it click, polish the. I'm done.

                                But then some people just has the knack to pick it up without the need of specialist tool.
                                Some may disagree, but the 15kg pressure thing can be a bit misleading. Anywhere from about 10kg to 30kg will produce similar results with the same dose, IMO. The reason a heavier tamp can "feel" like it makes a difference is because the heavier tamp is often compensating for a dose which is too high. It is therefore the dose that is making most of the difference, not the tamp.

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