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  • telemaster
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    Originally posted by Dennis link=1173864679/30#38 date=1173995566
    Originally posted by telemaster link=1173864679/30#37 date=1173989823
    And the real questions:
    *How does it taste?
    *Did I enjoy it or was my enjoyment spoiled by me thinking about extraneous things?

    I also use occasionally an18g coffeeparts basket. Not much any more- I use boema 14g ones now.
    Now that Ive got more consistent results ina ll areas, I realise I was probably using the larger basket to make up for inconsistencies in tamping, dosing and temperature.

    Not suggesting anyone else has these problems, but some just might (no, no sarcasm intended).

    Brett
    Coffee tastes fine - dont proclaim to be an expert, so some shots are better than others.  Im glad Im still learning - life would be too boring otherwise...guess that also answers the 2nd question.

    I use the basket that came with the machine because I figure the manufacturer has a better clue than I do.  When Im able to blindfold myself and be able to distinguish which side of the mountain the coffee was grown on, Ill probably design my own basket  ;D
    I like that! Im an inveterate tinkerer myself. I dont think there are any perfect practitioners- coffee, being hydrophillic and many other long words has a tendency to regularly dup you on your **** so we all stuff up. The only difference is its a little less often and perhaps less spectacularly

    Brett

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  • Dennis
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    Originally posted by telemaster link=1173864679/30#37 date=1173989823
    And the real questions:
    *How does it taste?
    *Did I enjoy it or was my enjoyment spoiled by me thinking about extraneous things?

    I also use occasionally an18g coffeeparts basket. Not much any more- I use boema 14g ones now.
    Now that Ive got more consistent results ina ll areas, I realise I was probably using the larger basket to make up for inconsistencies in tamping, dosing and temperature.

    Not suggesting anyone else has these problems, but some just might (no, no sarcasm intended).

    Brett
    Coffee tastes fine - dont proclaim to be an expert, so some shots are better than others. Im glad Im still learning - life would be too boring otherwise...guess that also answers the 2nd question.

    I use the basket that came with the machine because I figure the manufacturer has a better clue than I do. When Im able to blindfold myself and be able to distinguish which side of the mountain the coffee was grown on, Ill probably design my own basket ;D

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  • telemaster
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    Re: Basket case

    And the real questions:
    *How does it taste?
    *Did I enjoy it or was my enjoyment spoiled by me thinking about extraneous things?

    I also use occasionally an18g coffeeparts basket. Not much any more- I use boema 14g ones now.
    Now that Ive got more consistent results ina ll areas, I realise I was probably using the larger basket to make up for inconsistencies in tamping, dosing and temperature.

    Not suggesting anyone else has these problems, but some just might (no, no sarcasm intended).

    Brett

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  • Dennis
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    Two coffees tonight - two bee you tee full pucks. I checked these with my trusty thermal probe and they were just 1degree celsius below the correct temperature of 32degrees celsius (thats 89.6 degrees farenheit) after 4 seconds.

    Exponential extrapolation: puck consistency may only be slightly improved if basket is 24carat gold-plated

    And thats good night from me!

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  • Dennis
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    thanks Viviane - gee sometimes I think we are all mad...can picture breaking up a puck with a toothpick ;D Ive been known to spend several minutes making designs in lattes with a toothpick then wonder why the coffee is cold :-[

    For the time being though, Im going to stick with my giotto senza cresta bucket - after all, I dont want to copy everything you do!

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  • Viviane
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    I also use a LM double basket that I bought with Gregs tamper, and sometimes have the same problem with the puck splitting into two layers. It happens if I havent tamped correctly (Im great at doing a lopsided tamp), break the puck up with a toothpick and retamp. I assume that its because the basket is very deep and I dont always break the puck up enough. The puck has never split when Ive tamped correctly to begin with.

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  • Dennis
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    Oh Java - we can make everything old new again! Theres probably nothing that hasnt been discussed here before...please, please, let me have some fun

    Dennis "spoilt little boy" phile

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  • Javaphile
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    Originally posted by Dennis link=1173864679/30#31 date=1173925016
    speaking of which - I wonder what people do with their pucks? hmm....new thread coming up!
    You mean old thread: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1145245907


    Java "Gotta love google" phile

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  • Dennis
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    speaking of which - I wonder what people do with their pucks? hmm....new thread coming up!

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  • Dennis
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    Originally posted by Greg Pullman link=1173864679/15#28 date=1173920628
    We should perhaps clarify where the break in question is. I think most including Saambo are picturing the puck snapping in half through a vertical plane, as could happen with a Grindenstein with its thin bar. I *think* Dennis is talking about a horizontal fracture (as Ive noticed with my own LM basket), where half the puck comes out and the other half remains within the basket.

    Irrespective of that, as Robusto says it doesnt necessarily matter; Ive not noticed this causing any problems with the LM shots compared to the Rancilio, its just a bit messier.
    Spot on Greg - horizontal crack just below the ridge

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  • reubster
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    yall
    If a Proctologist makes diagnosis by inspecting all things "stool"
    does this mean we CSers are Pucktologists

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  • gregpullman
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    We should perhaps clarify where the break in question is. I think most including Saambo are picturing the puck snapping in half through a vertical plane, as could happen with a Grindenstein with its thin bar. I *think* Dennis is talking about a horizontal fracture (as Ive noticed with my own LM basket), where half the puck comes out and the other half remains within the basket.

    Irrespective of that, as Robusto says it doesnt necessarily matter; Ive not noticed this causing any problems with the LM shots compared to the Rancilio, its just a bit messier.

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  • robusto
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    Good description, Dennis. I must take that pilgrimage to Uluru to see whether my own extractions measure up.

    --RObusto

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  • Dennis
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    Good morning all - yes, Mal, Im feeling a little chirpier and Greg, hope you can see where I was coming from.

    This morning I got the giotto basket and gently placed the PT inside - a very nice fit.  So using the same coffee/grind/pressure and water in the reservoir, pulled a shot....

    Magic, red ochre crema with colour ranges like those produced by a smoky sunset on the south western face of Uluru.

    Then the moment of the knock...

    Used my standard calculated knocking method: take aim, raise arm to 50degrees, downward force emanating in hitting the kncobar at a speed of 27 kilometres per hour.  And the result....

    a single puck... must have been to do with the basket; life is good; the stars ar once again aligned, and all is good in the universe, so long as you stay under the bed covers!

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  • ozscott
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    My double pucks hardly ever break using the bang bang. They used to break a little more often before getting a Pullman tamper. The singles dont often break, but more than the doubles probably owing to their shape and lack of thickness at the outer edges due to basket shape.

    Cheers

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