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  • #46
    Originally posted by Yelta View Post
    Pretty broad statement Logga, I don't find leveling the dose challenging in the least, it's a skill most people acquire very quickly.

    Just trying an edit!
    Agreed. Very occasionally it isn't level but to call it challenging and to say it effects everyone is an exaggeration.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Yelta View Post
      Just went into post 46 and edited it without problem Logga, are you seeing the edit post button?
      Yes the edit button is there, when I click on it nothing happened.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by MrFreddofrog View Post
        Agreed. Very occasionally it isn't level but to call it challenging and to say it effects everyone is an exaggeration.
        Not my words, but I suppose every one is entitled to there own opinion.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Yelta View Post
          Pretty broad statement Logga, I don't find leveling the dose challenging in the least, it's a skill most people acquire very quickly.
          True, although like everything in the coffee industry that's being micromanaged, controlled, fretted over, measured, and autopsied to death, I can understand why some folk would feel "unqualified" without being strapped in to some sort of sphygmo-tamp-ometer first...

          ...which, mind you, doesn't exist.

          http://www.pmsinstruments.co.uk/blog.../12/UM-102.jpg

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          • #50
            I've had tamper and filter basket combinations that made it very difficult to achieve a level tamp any time let alone consistently. I've also had the opposite where the tamper is such a great fit for the basket that it's obvious that the coffee bed is quite level.
            Also I'd argue that there's plenty of people who think that they're tamping level and actually aren't, although they won't be off by much (I've seen it plenty). There's definitely a place for levelers and leveling type tampers, especially in a commercial environment if it can be successful worked into the workflow.
            If you tamp freehand and want to know how level your bed is, run some sort of depth gauge around the edge of the filter basket after tamping. This is a quick and easy way to check your results and will give you a truer indication than just eyeing your tamper post tamp. This can be quite deceptive I've found.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Yelta View Post
              Pretty broad statement Logga, I don't find leveling the dose challenging in the least, it's a skill most people acquire very quickly.

              Just trying an edit!
              You must of read the piece when I was trying to edit my first post, I copied and pasted the whole of the link, as you read the first part of the link it says what you thought I said.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                If you tamp freehand and want to know how level your bed is....
                ....leave the tamper in there and look/feel the height it protrudes above the basket is consistent all the way around. It isn't that hard......

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by MrFreddofrog View Post
                  ....leave the tamper in there and look/feel the height it protrudes above the basket is consistent all the way around. It isn't that hard......

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                  Yes that's the ideal way to do it. What I'm saying is I've had tamper/basket combinations where this wasn't possible. Also you'll find that unless you get down and really eyeball it you won't get it perfectly level each time using this method.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                    Yes that's the ideal way to do it. What I'm saying is I've had tamper/basket combinations where this wasn't possible. Also you'll find that unless you get down and really eyeball it you won't get it perfectly level each time using this method.
                    No not PERFECTLY level but I'd hazard a guess there would be very few people on this planet who could taste the difference.

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                    • #55
                      Mr FF has nailed it,

                      "just spread your fingers around the edge of the basket/tamper while pressing down to gauge it's level? That's all I do. Seems to work fine."

                      Works a treat.

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                      • #56
                        The coffee shops I've visited all seem to use this method pictured. (like a bench drill )

                        Wouldn't it take the guesswork out of tamping? It should be consistent.


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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by MrFreddofrog View Post
                          No not PERFECTLY level but I'd hazard a guess there would be very few people on this planet who could taste the difference.
                          True, half a mm each way isn't going to make any difference, especially when you consider that it's unlikely that any other part of the equation is perfect. So as long as you can work consistently within small tolerances you'll be good as gold.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                            True, half a mm each way isn't going to make any difference, especially when you consider that it's unlikely that any other part of the equation is perfect. So as long as you can work consistently within small tolerances you'll be good as gold.
                            No way can I consistently tamp within half a mm. Even if I was one of the gifted, hand/eye coordinated ones, I'd still worry about the cumulative effect of imperfections, rather than any single one. I figure that if I minimise the information overload from all the unwanted variables, I'll unmuddy the feedback from the control variables I deliberately introduce. At least that's the plan. Thus my reliance on mechanical contrivances.

                            I have a defunct "Descent Tamper" which utilises a tight tolerance between itself and the basket to control uneven tamps. I've thought about getting it machined down (to fit my 49mm baskets) but it only works as intended, with the precision 58mm "Descent Baskets." So, that's got me looking at the "Eazytamp Pro." Some early reports of metal on metal grinding/binding have me concerned. Any input regarding the latest iteration would be appreciated.
                            Thanks in advance.

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