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    Copied here an email I just received and responded to, with sender obfuscated. Wow. Just wow.

    Hi XXXXX.

    Discontinue use of the machine IMMEDIATELY and unplug it. It is a serious safety concern and you or someone else may suffer injury or death from an electric shock. Your machine needs to be checked for electrical safety, properly earthed and the fault rectified.

    You should also have a licensed electrician check your house wiring and install a Residual Current Device or safety switch. These simple devices save lives in exactly this scenario by detecting and preventing the use of faulty appliances.

    I can't give you any indication on cost as I don't know what the fault is, or the history of the machine, but I daresay it can be fixed economically - my workshop is in Northcote, are you able to drop the machine off there during business hours or saturday mornings?

    Thanks, Rick


    On 8 August 2016 at 21:35, XXXXX wrote:
    Hi Rick,

    I got your name from the Coffee Snobs site and I am writing in regards to my Isomac coffee machine.

    The machine does not have an earth just a two pin European ac plug. It seems to build up and gives off a nasty static discharge.We have to use rubber gloves in order to use the machine.

    I am wondering how much something like that would cost and also to have the machine serviced.

    Thank You
    XXXXX

  • #2
    Originally posted by coffee_machinist View Post
    Discontinue use of the machine IMMEDIATELY and unplug it. It is a serious safety concern and you or someone else may suffer injury or death from an electric shock.
    But he had rubber gloves on

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    • #3
      yeah I guess as long as all operators of the machine wear rubber gloves she'll be right. Probably they should at least make up a sign.

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      • #4
        You just got to shake your head and wonder...
        Hope he listens to you mate, and good call by the way...

        Mal.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by coffee_machinist View Post
          yeah I guess as long as all operators of the machine wear rubber gloves she'll be right. Probably they should at least make up a sign.
          Yep, they should definitely make up a warning sign. A warning sign will guarantee that no one does anything stupid..........won't it?

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          • #6
            Hooley dooley. Anyone for a Darwin award?

            Another fine product from the not in Sydney but look like we're in Sydney grey imports specialist? "Just pay into our Italian bank account..."

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            • #7
              Surely someone is taking the piss?
              This can't be real?!?!

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              • #8
                Did they seriously manage to plug the machine in? Unless they had a cruel & unusual type adapter…

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DesigningByCoffee View Post
                  Unless they had a cruel & unusual type adapter…
                  Yep- Crappy adaptors are what they supply. We have seen plenty...
                  Last edited by TC; 9 August 2016, 03:11 PM.

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                  • #10
                    I hope they also supplied the rubber gloves--a bitch to spend all that money on a machine then have to go out and buy some.

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                    • #11
                      I particularly enjoy getting a shock off the Diadema Unico Splendor machines' power plug after you unplug it. We measured the residual voltage at the two pins of the power plug after the machine had been on and compared it to the Australian safety standard, it failed. I'd say all these machines, unless modified accordingly, do this.

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                      • #12
                        So it makes shocking coffee?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by noidle22 View Post
                          I particularly enjoy getting a shock off the Diadema Unico Splendor machines' power plug after you unplug it. We measured the residual voltage at the two pins of the power plug after the machine had been on and compared it to the Australian safety standard, it failed. I'd say all these machines, unless modified accordingly, do this.
                          Probably just a PSU capacitor without a bleed resistor....

                          Mal.

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                          • #14
                            Scary to think there are people out there who do this stuff. I have a Expobar minore iv, and in the manual it says "don't use the machine with wet hands or bear feet". Reading this email puts it in context for me. 😨😱 I certainly will be respcting my machine.

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                            • #15
                              If the machine is properly earthed and it is connected to a circuit protected by a RCD or safety switch, wet hands is not a big worry. In the above case, it's a perfect storm of electrical fault, non-earthed appliance, non existent or non-functioning safety switch and total ignorance of the combined dangers of the above by the owners.

                              As for bear feet, if you've successfully got them off the bear, a mild dose of 240V should not pose a problem for you.

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