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  • #31
    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
    Haha! Classic. Gotta love the old double speed video. I especially love that there'll be some people who would've watched that and thought, "Wow! I don't know how he moves so fast!"
    Not double speed, he is pretty quick though.

    The reason this guy seems to moves so fast (compared to some of the sluggards I've seen) is that he knows exactly what he's doing, and, he has his ducks in a row.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Yelta View Post
      Nothing stupid about it (site policy) most understand the reason for the few simple rules of this forum, guess for a few the penny simply wont drop.

      I guess there's a balance between free discussion and preventing spam, but if it's too strict it can turn the site into a personal fiefdom and restricted commercial concern, too lenient and yes, then spam posts would abound.

      Personally I can't see the harm in a simple URL to provide product info and that Mods block anything much beyond that (like sales pitches), but then I suppose just mentioning the product name gives people the option to google and find it so outlawing URL's is no biggie. However it does kinda smack of protecting your own commercial concern on what, it would seem, is the largest coffee forum in Australia. A bit of a conflict of interest - is the forum about information, or sales for sponsors?

      Site sponsors should get their reward by users purchasing from them as a thank you for sponsoring (and, yes I have - from Andy), not by blocking information about non sponsors.

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      • #33
        From what I've seen in cafe's getting the grind right is far more of a concern than the tamp.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by wfdTamar View Post
          I guess there's a balance between free discussion and preventing spam, but if it's too strict it can turn the site into a personal fiefdom and restricted commercial concern, too lenient and yes, then spam posts would abound.

          Personally I can't see the harm in a simple URL to provide product info and that Mods block anything much beyond that (like sales pitches), but then I suppose just mentioning the product name gives people the option to google and find it so outlawing URL's is no biggie. However it does kinda smack of protecting your own commercial concern on what, it would seem, is the largest coffee forum in Australia. A bit of a conflict of interest - is the forum about information, or sales for sponsors?

          Site sponsors should get their reward by users purchasing from them as a thank you for sponsoring (and, yes I have - from Andy), not by blocking information about non sponsors.
          The rule of thumb I work by - if it's the manufacturers website, and they don't sell direct to Aus market, post away.

          If it's a retail website that is not a sponsor, then don't post. Do the work to fine the information elsewhere first.

          No one would sponsor CS at all if there wasn't any benefit to doing so. It's up to sponsors to drum up their own business. A few links at the bottom, a random rotating banner and a quote form are great, but barely beneficial, and so it's fair to limit the competition/noise to those who have actually invested in the platform.

          FWIW, CoffeeParts (a sponsor) sell the PuqPress https://www.coffeeparts.com.au/puq-press-58-3mm-v2

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          • #35
            Originally posted by wfdTamar View Post
            I guess there's a balance between free discussion and preventing spam, but if it's too strict it can turn the site into a personal fiefdom and restricted commercial concern, too lenient and yes, then spam posts would abound.

            Personally I can't see the harm in a simple URL to provide product info and that Mods block anything much beyond that (like sales pitches), but then I suppose just mentioning the product name gives people the option to google and find it so outlawing URL's is no biggie. However it does kinda smack of protecting your own commercial concern on what, it would seem, is the largest coffee forum in Australia. A bit of a conflict of interest - is the forum about information, or sales for sponsors?

            Site sponsors should get their reward by users purchasing from them as a thank you for sponsoring (and, yes I have - from Andy), not by blocking information about non sponsors.
            This has all been done many times before wT, yes it's a commercial forum, and, as such is going to support them that support it, not a difficult concept to grasp.

            As I said earlier in another post, Coffee Snobs has a few simple, easy to understand rules, if you don't care to observe them there is an alternative.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by readeral View Post
              ...No one would sponsor CS at all if there wasn't any benefit to doing so. It's up to sponsors to drum up their own business. A few links at the bottom, a random rotating banner and a quote form are great, but barely beneficial, and so it's fair to limit the competition/noise to those who have actually invested in the platform....

              Yes, sponsors should get a reward for doing so and they get that by good 'citizenship' and the banners etc (which do lead to the benefit of sales). If users see that sponsors contribute to posts with good, unbiased info they tend to think more highly of them and can see they are real people with an interest in the industry above the mere commercial and tend to reward them commercially for that.

              Yelta - Yes, I'm sure this has been discussed before - and the 'if you don't like it leave' argument is juvenile. Or rather it's like the 'if you don't want to live in my house under rules leave' - so possibly the opposite of juvenile? :-)

              The other side of the coin is if information is restricted too much people won't read the forum as they can't get unbiased information and sponsors won't have an audience. So free discussion is in their interest too.

              Personally if I know a business is restricting information it turns me off using them. It becomes like shopping at Harvey Norman where the information you get is from whatever the slick salesperson wants you to know. I would rather a free flow of information, sources of products, etc and then if site sponsors have the greatest knowledge, helpfulness and best prices - I'll shop from them. If they want to keep me in the dark and treat me like a mushroom - I won't go near them.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Magic_Matt View Post
                It's certainly not double speed (unless they've gone to the effort of recording and overdubbing a "cafe noises" soundtrack, while isolating and tone adjusting the other sounds) - but doesn't appear to be 100% either. [emoji848]
                Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                Not double speed, he is pretty quick though.

                The reason this guy seems to moves so fast (compared to some of the sluggards I've seen) is that he knows exactly what he's doing, and, he has his ducks in a row.
                I hope you guys are joking. The reason this guy seems to move so fast is because the clip has been sped up. Simple as that. Credibility is crumbling quickly round here.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by wfdTamar View Post
                  Yes, sponsors should get a reward for doing so and they get that by good 'citizenship' and the banners etc (which do lead to the benefit of sales).

                  Yelta - Yes, I'm sure this has been discussed before - and the 'if you don't like it leave' argument is juvenile. Or rather it's like the 'if you don't want to live i my house under rules leave' - so possibly the opposite of juvenile? :-)

                  The other side of the coin is if information is restricted too much people won't read the forum as they can't get unbiased information and sponsors won't have an audience. So free discussion is in their interest too.
                  Information isn't restricted. Advertising other commercial interests (either deliberately or inadvertently) is restricted.

                  Think of CS (which is a business owned by Andy) as a department store. You're welcome to discuss with the salespersons and your fellow shoppers any items you want, but you're not welcome to setup signs that say "X product this way" directing people out of the store.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                    I hope you guys are joking. The reason this guy seems to move so fast is because the clip has been sped up. Simple as that. Credibility is crumbling quickly round here.
                    Starting the video from 1 min 20 is the tell-tale for me.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by wfdTamar View Post

                      Yelta - Yes, I'm sure this has been discussed before - and the 'if you don't like it leave' argument is juvenile. Or rather it's like the 'if you don't want to live i my house under rules leave' - so possibly the opposite of juvenile? :-)
                      Will leave you to sort out your thoughts, I suspect given your somewhat abrasive attitude we won't have the pleasure of your company for long.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by readeral View Post
                        Starting the video from 1 min 20 is the tell-tale for me.
                        Then again Al, it's on the internet so it must be true. [emoji849]

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                        • #42
                          Was going to give them (Patricia Coffee Brewers) a call and ask the question, sadly, closed today.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by readeral View Post
                            Information isn't restricted. Advertising other commercial interests (either deliberately or inadvertently) is restricted.

                            Think of CS (which is a business owned by Andy) as a department store. You're welcome to discuss with the salespersons and your fellow shoppers any items you want, but you're not welcome to setup signs that say "X product this way" directing people out of the store.

                            Well, yes information IS restricted. I posted URL's pointing to two products which were removed. They were to the manufacturers sites so just for information (though they enabled purchase so also commercial). The problem is it's often hard to separate the info from the commercial.

                            I think the root of the problem IS this forum being a business owned by Andy. There needs to a separation of church and state (BeanBay & CoffeeSnobs). It's gone beyond a simple forum about Andy's products (which is no doubt how it started) and the other sponsors. Because it's as big as it is it needs to be unrestricted to be seen as really unbiased.

                            I want a forum to freely discuss things and availability - if that is a sponsor great, but if they aren't good enough tough.

                            Anyway - no amount of discussion is going to change site policy so 'nuff said hey? :-)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                              Will leave you to sort out your thoughts, I suspect given your somewhat abrasive attitude we won't have the pleasure of your company for long.


                              Oh, very nice.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                                Was going to give them (Patricia Coffee Brewers) a call and ask the question, sadly, closed today.
                                It's been 4 years, reckon they have any staff around that remember that video?

                                FWIW, I agree the dude is fast! Just there's been a slight (25%? 50%?) speed increase. The general pitch of the cafe is consistent with the kind of pitch shift I'd expect when speeding up videos (I do it with youtube's own built in mechanism all the time for lectures and such) around 1.25/1.5x.

                                But as you've attempted to determine, only the source truly knows.

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