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    Hi, Hope everyone is well. A friend has the same machine as mine, an ecm that's one year or so old. Claims to use bottled water only and was showing me these white flakes in his water tank I have no idea what they are so I thought to ask for clarification on here. I will attach a picture, he says his started seeing it last few months every now and then. Thanks
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  • #2
    I wouldn't know what it is.
    Clean and disinfect the tank to be on the safe side.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Waah954 View Post
      Hi, Hope everyone is well. A friend has the same machine as mine, an ecm that's one year or so old. Claims to use bottled water only and was showing me these white flakes in his water tank I have no idea what they are so I thought to ask for clarification on here. I will attach a picture, he says his started seeing it last few months every now and then. Thanks
      What is your water supply and if tap water where are you located and do you filter it. (Prescription without diagnosis is malpractice :-) )

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tompoland View Post
        What is your water supply and if tap water where are you located and do you filter it. (Prescription without diagnosis is malpractice :-) )
        He uses bottled water.

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        • tompoland
          tompoland commented
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          Oops, I should really read the whole post, yes? Tx.

      • #5
        An excess of calcium can crystalise, so to speak, and appear as white flakes. This is common in "hard water" which is why I asked about the source. I'd get the water tested if for some reason he wants to keep using the same water but in the meantime definitely clean the thing and try a different water source while the test results come back. Dollare to donuts its calcium which means a fast build up of scale in his machine too.

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        • #6
          "Bottled water" could mean a lot of things. Very few bottled water options are suitable for use in espresso machines.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
            "Bottled water" could mean a lot of things. Very few bottled water options are suitable for use in espresso machines.
            Anything you can recommend?

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            • #8
              Originally posted by Waah954 View Post
              Anything you can recommend?
              Depends where you are. Pureau is one. There's a couple of threads on it with suggestions in certain locations.

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              • #9
                I would advise your friend to get a benchtop water filtration system with the appropriate cartridge. These can just be attached to a tap in the kitchen or laundry. Take a look a Di Bartoli or Talk Coffee websites to see what I'm referring to. This would be a much better long term option compared to buying bottled water.

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                • tompoland
                  tompoland commented
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                  Yep or under bench

                • Barry O'Speedwagon
                  Barry O'Speedwagon commented
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                  Yeh I've been use this benchtop system for at least 4 years:

                  https://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/...-water-filter/

                  With replacement cartridges easily available. Seems to work well, doesn't cost the earth and you can easily take it with you if you move house (or even if you head down the coast for a few weeks I guess).

              • #10
                Thanks to all for suggestions/advice. Will share.

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                • #11
                  A bwt penguin water pitcher is also a good option, it’s just a fillable jug. Won’t make your water softer but does help remove some of the calcium and replace with magnesium. I have one sitting in my cupboard I don’t use anymore if it happens to be something your friend wants to get. 1 spare filter and I can post it depending on location. Just a suggestion

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by FilthySudo View Post
                    A bwt penguin water pitcher is also a good option, it’s just a fillable jug. Won’t make your water softer but does help remove some of the calcium and replace with magnesium. I have one sitting in my cupboard I don’t use anymore if it happens to be something your friend wants to get. 1 spare filter and I can post it depending on location. Just a suggestion
                    Thanks for offer, will let him know and will pm you if his interest.

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