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  • Blues1143
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    Appears to be a much cheaper Duomo the Eight clone, 3D printed so not sure re longevity, but correctly sized needles.
    First Etsy store option if google search - "Roto WDT 58 - The easy to use rotating Espresso Distribution Tool"

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  • ratbert121
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    Yeah, they're not complicated pieces of kit!

  • Budgiesmuggler
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    I have a commercially made one, and imo my cork and accupuncture needles works better.

  • ratbert121
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    Before dropping any coin, you can make a WDT if you have something like thin needles (I used guitar strings) and a wine bottle cork. May be worth having a crack, I've not bothered to 'upgrade' to a commercially made product as my results are good

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  • nic111
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    Thanks for the responses! and the thorough breakdown level3ninja

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  • level3ninja
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    I've had one for a couple of weeks.

    Jury is still out. It's super heavy, and having those super skinny needles on the bottom I was always worried about bending them at first, it took a bit to get used to how much force to use to move it without hitting things. Now that I've used it 10-20 times it's feeling more natural. From the top of the coffee after you remove it, other than the holes left by the needles, it looks to have done a decent job. Actual performance of the distribution though I'm still figuring out. It's definately not as good as full height manual WDT, since I do small circles just over half the diameter moving in a large circle at the bottom, middle and top, it can't compete with that. But it also takes zero skill or muscle memory, it's pretty consistent every time (I think how flat the grounds are before you put it on is critical). I bought it for my wife to use because she'd never use the manual WDT, also my toddler likes to "help", and I feel that perhaps with the P100 puck prep can change things a fair bit, so I wanted to have a way of making the puck prep more consistent so the grind settings I told her to use worked the same for her as they did for me. Like I said I've only used it 10-20 times, I need to test it more but at the moment if 0 is no WDT and 10 is full height manual WDT done right, it's probably somewhere between 5-8 depending on how flat you get the grounds before putting it on.

    This is after palm taps to level but before spinny WDT.
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    These are after doing spinny WDT (second one is top down to show holes left by needles)
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    So as you can see it absolutely looks the business from the top. I need to do more naked portafilter shots with it so I can see what's going on, but I usually only don't split decaf (unless it's really early and I need caffeine, in which case it's not going to get my full attention).

    This is the first time I did it with the naked portafilter, looks like a good pour.

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  • tompoland
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    I have tried similar versions but I was unimpressed and ended up binning them.

    To me, the needles with this type of device create patterns in the grinds because the needles are fixed in one place, and that is pretty much the opposite of what I want.

    The other reason I prefer a hand rake is that I can lift the needles as I stir and use the North/South East/West technique to distribute grinds across the top part of the puck. I appreciate that you can also lift a device like this but it doesn't work as well, partially because some needles are so close to the outside edge.

    I have a couple of Ultracraft puck rakes and they are great but SworksDesign is my favorite, with 11 thin 0.22mm needles.

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  • JohnA
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    i have not tried the V2 but do have the V1 and dont think much of it to be honest...didnt seem to offer any real benefit. If i spun it quickly like in that video posted, it fluffed up the grounds way to much and ended up spilling some when removing the tool, nothing like what it shows in that video

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  • nic111
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    Normcore Needle Distribution tool V2

    Hi All,

    I have been looking at getting a WDT tool and am trying to narrow down the options. The Duomo is a bit on the steep end, then I came across the Normcore needle distribution V2. It seems to take inspiration from the duomo and I like it for the ease of simply sitting it on the edge of the basket as you would with wedge style distributors rather than manual WDT tools. For consistency sake..

    Does anyone have experience with this? I can only find 1 video online of it being used and there is a topic in the forum comparing the Duomo to V1 however not the V2. It seems they reduced the needle size and added some height adjustability which were the main issues over the V1. Hopefully others have experiences with this!

    Any thoughts and/or experiences are appreciated, thanks!


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    Video mentioned above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxs7cIUPG_o
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