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    Hi,

    Im not sure if this has been discussed, but the no burn steam wands that are starting to become more prevalent on prosumers lately has many positives - but what about the negetives. Ive heard that the no-burn wands produce a wetter steam than the non-insulated old school - keep it real ones.
    I have the Minore and have found the steam to be sufficient, but Ive nothing really (as far as time goes) to compare it to.

    Does wet/dry steam have anything to do with the wand type, hole size and number, pressure, or a combo of everything?

    Just throwing around some ideas.

    YeeZa

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    Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

    I swapped the old wand for a cool touch on my Expobar and havent noticed any difference in the steam.






    Edit: Typo.

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    • #3
      Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

      Ive got a never-used original steam wand for my expobar office. I modded to the cool-touch before using the machine. I suppose I could give it a go, but they almost look the same as far as nozzles go.

      Does anyone know how the cool touch works? Im guessing it is one tube inside another to give insulation (like a vacuum flask). In which case it would also insulate the wand itself from cold milk which would probably be a good thing if you want the steam to keep dry.

      If youre wanting to experiment YeeZa I was already thinking of advertising the stock standard wand on this forum. Maybe just PM me.

      jprm

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      • #4
        Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

        Take the tip off and if you look up into the wand you will see there is a tube in there as you suspect.

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        • #5
          Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

          Yeah thats the tube that Ive heard makes the steam wetter. Teflon coated right? Where as the straight up steel tube makes it drier somehow. Maybe Im just pulling this out of the air though :

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          • #6
            Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

            How can it make the steam wetter?

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            • #7
              Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

              No idea! haha, Ive just heard that being thrown around before, I cant remember where, I thought it was on this site.... but....? Maybe something about the teflon not retaining the heat, but cooling the steam as it comes through? And the steel wand keeps it drier? Dunno. Id like to run them side by side just for kicks.

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              • #8
                Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?


                Cool touch "No Burn" steam wands cause burns all the time...

                When I change from the Giotto to anything without a cool touch wand I burn my fingers moving after frothn.


                I dont notice more water either but look forward to your findings.

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                • #9
                  Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

                  haha, yeah I dont know how people cope with that little nub of rubber to stop yourself from getting fried hahaha.

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                  • #10
                    Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

                    Originally posted by YeeZa link=1220331897/0#8 date=1220408671
                    haha, yeah I dont know how people cope with that little nub of rubber to stop yourself from getting fried hahaha.
                    Thats why I grab the wand with a damp cloth. Have had a few burns on the top of my head from Dudley though - ouchie! ;D

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                    • #11
                      Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

                      Originally posted by Dennis link=1220331897/0#9 date=1220409227
                       Have had a few burns on the top of my head from Dudley though - ouchie!  ;D
                      First Crack? ;D

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                      • #12
                        Re: No burn steam wands, different steam?

                        Originally posted by YeeZa link=1220331897/0#10 date=1220409542
                        Originally posted by Dennis link=1220331897/0#9 date=1220409227
                         Have had a few burns on the top of my head from Dudley though - ouchie!  ;D
                        First Crack? ;D
                        No, leaning in and listening for 2nd actually.

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