Re: La Scala coffee machine
Hi Lovey,
After a private conversation with 2MCM I have modified my post to better reflect the current situation with the Giotto. But the reason I made the comment was that, at the time I bought my machine I was seriously considering the Giotto. My local coffee roaster sold the Giotto exclusively at the time but told me there had been an issue with a batch of boiler pipes (made in Holland, I think he said) having too small flarings on one end and that the machines from that batch had all failed resulting in the contents of the boiler ending up on the bench. Long story short, he had lost confidence in ECM and ceased to stock them. I had just discovered the La Scala machine and he got one in for me, which I bought. He told me that the Giotto was going to then be made in NZ under the Rocket brand name.
As I had bought my machine and am just a home user, my curiosity with E61 comparisons ceased at that point and I had no reason to continue researching these matters.
I posted what I last knew to be the case and I am endebted to 2MCM for enlightening me to the fact that they went back to making the machines (of original quality) in Milan.
This all serves to make the point that saw me join this discussion forum in the first place. All E61 machines are likely to be of similar quality and its likely that our personal prejudices and lack of up-to-date knowledge seem to be what causes all the fuss. Just buy the machine that has the features that work for you and, chances are, it will be great. From my experience the La Scala Butterfly is as well made as any other machine. There are some close-up internal images on the internet that support that.
As I am new here, I have not yet posted my review of this excellent machine, but I intend doing so.
Hi Lovey,
After a private conversation with 2MCM I have modified my post to better reflect the current situation with the Giotto. But the reason I made the comment was that, at the time I bought my machine I was seriously considering the Giotto. My local coffee roaster sold the Giotto exclusively at the time but told me there had been an issue with a batch of boiler pipes (made in Holland, I think he said) having too small flarings on one end and that the machines from that batch had all failed resulting in the contents of the boiler ending up on the bench. Long story short, he had lost confidence in ECM and ceased to stock them. I had just discovered the La Scala machine and he got one in for me, which I bought. He told me that the Giotto was going to then be made in NZ under the Rocket brand name.
As I had bought my machine and am just a home user, my curiosity with E61 comparisons ceased at that point and I had no reason to continue researching these matters.
I posted what I last knew to be the case and I am endebted to 2MCM for enlightening me to the fact that they went back to making the machines (of original quality) in Milan.
This all serves to make the point that saw me join this discussion forum in the first place. All E61 machines are likely to be of similar quality and its likely that our personal prejudices and lack of up-to-date knowledge seem to be what causes all the fuss. Just buy the machine that has the features that work for you and, chances are, it will be great. From my experience the La Scala Butterfly is as well made as any other machine. There are some close-up internal images on the internet that support that.
As I am new here, I have not yet posted my review of this excellent machine, but I intend doing so.

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