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    Ok folks, first question for the giotto!

    Someone told me here that a Giotto would steam 1 lt of milk no probs, now i took that as, it could steam 1 lt of milk without stopping, i mean it will do it but with a break at 42C then build up to 1.2bar again and hit it again, not overly worried as i only do 600ml Jugs usually, but even with the 600ml Jug, (say 500ml milk) it screams in the last 5 C or so, is this normal for the Giotto?

    And one more, where is the ml measurement on milk jugs taken from, is it total capacity or to the bottom of the spout?

    cheers snobbers!

    ps i love the Giotto ;D

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    Re: Giotto steaming question

    Originally posted by 4B4F697070756A7D721C0 link=1253085027/0#0 date=1253085027
    Ok folks, first question for the giotto!

    Someone told me here that a Giotto would steam 1 lt of milk no probs, now i took that as, it could steam 1 lt of milk without stopping, i mean it will do it but with a break at 42C then build up to 1.2bar again and hit it again, not overly worried as i only do 600ml Jugs usually, but even with the 600ml Jug, (say 500ml milk) it screams in the last 5 C or so, is this normal for the Giotto?

    And one more, where is the ml measurement on milk jugs taken from, is it total capacity or to the bottom of the spout?

    cheers snobbers!

    ps i love the Giotto ;D
    I would have thought that seeing as you can only make 2 shots, 300-400ml of milk woud be adequate?  :-?

    Measurement is total capacity- which is why you need a 600ml jug for 2 coffees....

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    • #3
      Re: Giotto steaming question

      The mL measurement is full capacity

      I havent tried steaming a 1L jug, but when Dennis (Cuppacoffee) demoed my GPP, he ran the steam wand from full to exhausted and it went for some time. I would be very surprised if you cant get a non-stop texture of 500mls of cold milk ina 1L jug.

      Give it a go and let us know.

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      • #4
        Re: Giotto steaming question

        THe giotto can easily steam 500ml of milk in one hit, sure the boiler has to fill during that time but it doesnt diminish the steam to the point that you need to stop, I did 100 coffees the other week and saw no issue with the machines ability to produce enough steam.

        Mal

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        • #5
          Re: Giotto steaming question

          As mentioned, if its only a half-filled 1L jug (i.e. 500ml) then the Giotto should be able to texture that without skipping a beat.

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          • #6
            Re: Giotto steaming question

            Cheers guys, yeah it will do 500 without a prob, still having dramas with microfoam though, I get decent silkiness but still some larger bubbles that dont knockout when tapped, Im not a fan of tapping on the bench I might add, is it possible to get a photo of someone holding the jug to show the angle, Ive got the depth ok its Just the angle Im confused by, the milk just swirls so quick and im not used to it coming from a Silvia   lol, i used to get brilliant microfoam from silvia, and im sure ill get there, but it just alludes me at this stage
            cheers
            Warren

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            • #7
              Re: Giotto steaming question

              Heres what I do

              Rest the jug on the drip dray with the steam wand inside.

              Lower the wand till its just touching the surface (in the middle of the jug) and turn the steam on full.

              When the desired amount of stretching has occurred (a couple of seconds), push the steam wand to near the side get the whirlpool happening.

              Wait until desired temp is reached and turn off the steam.

              Tap jug on bench to get rid of any bubbles and swirl to polish the milk.

              Works for me

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              • #8
                Re: Giotto steaming question

                Ill give that a go flynn, is that with the 600? are you saying literally a couple of seconds? what temp approx are you looking at when dumping it lower, i know it was around 35 C on the silvia,
                cheers
                warren

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                • #9
                  Re: Giotto steaming question

                  600 or 400ml jug

                  I no longer use a thermometer and didnt ever use one when judging the point to dump lower. Based on KKs advice the initial texturing of a 400ml jug should be about 1 sec. A couple of secs for the 600ml.
                  Theoretically you start with the wand near the edge.
                  I find that the initial stretching raises the milk to the corect level so I dont have to dip lower when stretching.

                  I should give credit to Dennis as this is pretty much how he did it during the demo. Worked a treat. Good thing is that you dont have to hold the jug while texturing

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                  • #10
                    Re: Giotto steaming question

                    I have no troubles at all steaming 1 lt of milk.

                    2 latte for the grown ups
                    2 hot Chochies for the kids

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                    • #11
                      Re: Giotto steaming question

                      Cheers Flynn, Ill give it a go

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                      • #12
                        Re: Giotto steaming question

                        Originally posted by 0E2C28342F2F38313A2F342D5D0 link=1253085027/9#9 date=1253095200
                        I have no troubles at all steaming 1 lt of milk.

                        2 latte for the grown ups
                        2 hot Chochies for the kids
                        so 1lt in a 1.5 lt jug? mine wont do that..........

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                        • #13
                          Re: Giotto steaming question

                          Unless................

                          Originally posted by 6F6B4D5454514E5956380 link=1253085027/0#0 date=1253085027
                          i mean it will do it but with a break at 42C then build up to 1.2bar again and hit it again
                          anyone else tried 1 lt volume of milk?

                          On another note, flynns advise in regards to texturing works a treat, anyone reading this who is haveing dramas should give it a go, so easy!<

                          cheers flynn

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                          • #14
                            Re: Giotto steaming question

                            i have done 1ltr of milk with no problems on my ecm giotto premium

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                            • #15
                              Re: Giotto steaming question

                              When lots of milky drinks are ordered, I just use a 1.0Lt Pitcher filled to the bottom of the spout impression and clean out/refill as many times as needed. Doesnt take long and the shots dont get a chance to cool down very much....

                              Need to work on a routine and itll all fall into place....

                              Mal.

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