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  • #16
    Re: My New Giotto

    Hang in there sjn, i had a similar problem with my giotto, running too hot , and the guys at ECA fixed it . I had the wrong restrictor leading into the e-61 grouphead. Thanks again to Dave at ECA.
    cheers
    vvmac

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    • #17
      Re: My New Giotto

      Originally posted by 5959424E4C2F0 link=1256091541/15#15 date=1256465268
      Hang in there sjn, i had a similar problem with my giotto, running too hot , and the guys at ECA fixed it .  I had the wrong restrictor leading into the e-61 grouphead.  Thanks again to Dave at ECA.
      cheers
      vvmac
      Seems like that might have been my problem as well.

      sjn

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      • #18
        Re: My New Giotto

        I run my PIDed Giotto at about 1.4 bar as this gives a head pour temp of about 92deg for water. It still needs a good cup flush after sitting for a while and steams for a little bit. After the flush its fine.

        I also run a restrictor in the head which does lower top temps.

        Re, your shots: you do need to tune it with the temp/pressure and get the right grind size. If you need to you can take the back off and adjust the OPV a little. I have dropped back my pressure to allow a coarser grind... but this becomes fiddly and personal taste.

        All the best.

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        • #19
          Re: My New Giotto

          Originally posted by 5C6C7779766A7B6C4D777A7B1E0 link=1256091541/11#11 date=1256203894
          Congratulations on your purchase sjn. Thats a nice combo you have there!

          We are getting our demo Giotto Premium Plus into the showroom next week. So if your still having problems with the operation of the machine Id be happy to have you by and talk through any operational issues and barista techniques that will help improve your experience on the machine. Address is 2/5 Commerce Circuit, Yatala, QLD. (07) 3801 8989

           
          A big thank you to Roger at Supreme Roasters for your kind offer to assist.
          I spent some time with Roger at his showroom/roastery and his passion for coffee,  from roasting the bean through to brewing and savouring the flavour is truely evident.
          I would suggest that anybody living in Brisbane/Gold Coast region who is considering buying a machine  contact Roger at Supreme Roasters. His no obligation attitude is great and he is happy to share his coffee related knowledge.

          Steve

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          • #20
            Re: My New Giotto

            Good to hear that youre now happy Steve,

            I am curious to know if anything was wrong with your machine?

            regards

            Chris

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            • #21
              Re: My New Giotto

              Originally posted by 04313C3B0F133F36363535500 link=1256091541/19#19 date=1257629869
              Good to hear that youre now happy Steve,

              I am curious to know if anything was wrong with your machine?

              regards

              Chris
              The thermosyphon restrictor was replaced (something about wrong size) Still get lots of steamy water from the group head but compared side by side with Rogers machine  its no different.

              Steve

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              • #22
                Re: My New Giotto

                This is my first post and follows buying a Rocket Giotto Premium Plus + Mazzer Mini Manual yesterday from Chris of Talk Coffee.

                I started with a Saeco Incanto in 2003 and quickly upgraded to a Silvia + Rocky in 2004.

                One hour with Chris demonstrating how to use the GPP and MM together with technique tips on grinding, brewing and texturing has already paid off as my first latte, after an hour warmup, was much better than my wife and I expected and approached a reasonably good cafe standard.  

                Touch wood, I have no signs of the initial odd machine behaviour such as that sjn has experienced and look forward to becoming another satisfied GPP owner serving several impressive lattes at a time - something I have not been able to do until the GPP.

                Thank you Chris for the beaming smile on my face.

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                • #23
                  Re: My New Giotto

                  Ive been lurking here mostly for over a year. The longer Ive been reading CS the higher my demands have got. So I thought I better nip that in the bud before I start demanding a La Marzocco or something like that. So I am a soon to be the owner of a GPP. It should go well with the Compak K3 grinder and the many beans one finds around inner city Sydney. Im rather excited.

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                  • #24
                    Re: My New Giotto

                    Great stuff Mentalist, hope you enjoy your Giotto, something to look forward to, its a great and enduring interest.

                    Cheers,

                    Jon.

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                    • #25
                      Re: My New Giotto

                      Originally posted by 5C545F45505D584245310 link=1256091541/22#22 date=1262043084
                      Ive been lurking here mostly for over a year. The longer Ive been reading CS the higher my demands have got. So I thought I better nip that in the bud before I start demanding a La Marzocco or something like that. So I am a soon to be the owner of a GPP. It should go well with the Compak K3 grinder and the many beans one finds around inner city Sydney. Im rather excited.

                      Good choice! Had mine for about 6 weeks now and my only regret is not doing it sooner! 8-)

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                      • #26
                        Re: My New Giotto

                        Originally posted by 0E060D17020F0A1017630 link=1256091541/22#22 date=1262043084
                        a La Marzocco or something like that
                        Itd certainly be an upgrade......oh, how I want a 2Gr Paddle Linea.

                        Happy new year!

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                        • #27
                          Re: My New Giotto

                          Couldnt agree more. Ive currently got seven Italian machines of various types (only three of them coffee) and the Giotto PP is the only one which didnt cause at least some degree of buyers remorse.

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                          • #28
                            Another "I have a new Giotto, now help!" thread

                            At 1400 hrs today I acquired a Giotto PP and Mazzer Mini Manual off Chris at Talk Coffee. I got very lucky, with Chris giving me the pre-Dec 31 price on the machine.

                            Im not sure if it was down to my confidence or experience, but Chris didnt see the need to run me through the machine. :P

                            Home and get everything set up (noticing that I am not supposed to use the Mazzer in a household evironment) and let the machine come up to temp.

                            First shot runs veeeeery slowly, so I move the grind adjustment ring around, almost the same. Im still attempting to dial it in, the last shot I made ran 10s before the espresso came out, and then it wasnt flowing smoothly but glugging along a bit.

                            I am getting significant tiger striping at the moment.

                            Now, the coffee I am using is Chris Urban Blend, but it is rather young, being roasted on 01/01/10.

                            So, first off, how much of the appearance of the crema could be put down to the youth of the coffee, and how much would be due to the slower-than-average pour?

                            Also, regarding dosing, can anyone suggest an eye-level dose amount that suits the Giotto? I seem to either under-dose and get a little water remaining on the puck, or I overdose and cant actually lock the handle in place!

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                            • #29
                              Re: Another "I have a new Giotto, now help!" thread

                              Originally posted by 555C54544F525358474850543D0 link=1262779988/0#0 date=1262779988
                              Anoticing that I am not supposed to use the Mazzer in a household evironment
                              Hmmm,

                              Thats a newie.... 2 million householders worldwide must be mistaken then :P :

                              Given that the GPP is an E-61 based machine, Id suggest that you read through this thread... http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1167622442 from Chris first; especially given that I believe he was referring to a Giotto at the time. All the best mate....

                              Mal.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Another "I have a new Giotto, now help!" thread

                                Originally posted by 48414949524F4E455A554D49200 link=1262779988/0#0 date=1262779988
                                Chris didnt see the need to run me through the machine
                                :-? :-?
                                Originally posted by 48414949524F4E455A554D49200 link=1262779988/0#0 date=1262779988
                                So, first off, how much of the appearance of the crema could be put down to the youth of the coffee, and how much would be due to the slower-than-average pour?
                                I cant imagine the youth of the blend being a problem to the pour time, not knowing the blend, but i would imagine it would have a healthy amount of crema, but at this early stage it may blonde earlier........id be checking distribution.......

                                i personally use a slightly bent finger to level on the basket, i half fill the basket, collapse, over fill basket, collapse, level, tamp, polish (no NSEW taps with teh tamp, i found it caused channeling)lock in and lever down to brew, 8-10 secs to first drip.

                                Now if you not getting a fast enough flow, cant you just back off on the grinder a bit? shouldnt take anymore that 3-4 shots to get it right......ish ;D,

                                Best of luck mate, sounds like your happy to be playing with your shiney new toy, its a great machine, and can* produce amazing results....






                                *Dependent on so so many factors ;D ;D

                                cheers
                                warren


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