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    An observation I made recently when in the market for a new E61 machine is that it seems most in the $2000 to $2500 category exhibit quite a bit of flex of the group head in relation to the body of the unit.
    This was reinforced on Friday when I was able to inspect a line up of about 6 better known brands, all exhibited this characteristic.
    This may or may not be a potential problem but it certainly influenced my final decision.
    Any thoughts about the subject? :-/












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  • #2
    Re: E61 Group Head flex?

    Which machine did you end up buying?

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    • #3
      Re: E61 Group Head flex?

      Ive never noticed it on my Expobar.
      So I just went and had a look.
      A fair amount of downward pressure on the handle when locked in can induce a very small amount of flex.

      Sideways pressure, when locking in, I cant say; I think the whole machine moves first.

      Have you tried the Expobar?
      Why would anyone exert downward pressure?

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      • #4
        Re: E61 Group Head flex?

        Originally posted by 2F22353D2820470 link=1260663210/1#1 date=1260663369
        Which machine did you end up buying?
        Bezzera Galatea Domus.

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        • #5
          Re: E61 Group Head flex?

          Originally posted by 774B564D474651444C47230 link=1260663210/2#2 date=1260666214
          Ive never noticed it on my Expobar.
          So I just went and had a look.
          A fair amount of downward pressure on the handle when locked in can induce a very small amount of flex.

          Sideways pressure, when locking in, I cant say; I think the whole machine moves first.

          Have you tried the Expobar?
          Why would anyone exert downward pressure?
          I,m talking about lateral/sideways pressure TG, when locking the PF in, the movement is quite noticeable, didnt check for vertical flex, as you say who would do it.
          The Minore III was on my short list but for a number of reasons settled on the Bezzera.

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          • #6
            Re: E61 Group Head flex?

            Originally posted by 49757C6471100 link=1260663210/3#3 date=1260666334
            Originally posted by 2F22353D2820470 link=1260663210/1#1 date=1260663369
            Which machine did you end up buying?
            Bezzera Galatea Domus.
            Yeah they look pretty solid.

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            • #7
              Re: E61 Group Head flex?

              Originally posted by 7E424B5346270 link=1260663210/4#4 date=1260666657
              I,m talking about lateral/sideways pressure TG, when locking the group handle in, the movement is quite noticeable
              As I said, not noticeable on my Expobar.

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              • #8
                Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                Ive never noticed what you are talking about - probably because I bought the Bezzera too! It is a tank.

                CTGTC 8-)

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                • #9
                  Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                  Same as TG....

                  The DJE moves on the bench before any flex can be observed (and Im not going to hang on to her with one hand while I lock the GH in with the other, either )

                  Mal.

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                  • #10
                    Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                    i have seen this flex on a maver makin.

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                    • #11
                      Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                      The brewhead is mounted to the face panel with two bolts. If the face panel flexes when you are just playing with the machines on a display counter then it is probably from using more force than is necessary to seal the PF. In my experience, it takes FAR less force to get the seal using my VBM DS than it did with Silvia.

                      Depending on the amount of space inside, it would be an easy matter to reinforce the mounting from behind with two strips of flat or angle steel stock.

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                      • #12
                        Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                        I can report that the Elektra SA doesnt flex in this manner.

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                        • #13
                          Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                          I dont have e61 but i get a bit of flex in the group handle (handle)

                          if i give it a good pull i can see some flex, its more the plastic end not the group head but.

                          your not seeing this are you?

                          i would be thinking new group seal needed if you need to yank this hard....

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                          • #14
                            Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                            I find it difficult to believe no one else has observed this! excess force is definitely not needed, normal locking pressure will do it.
                            One of the machines I had on my short list and bypassed it because of this flex was the Isomac Tea.
                            Next time Im in Adelaide will visit the same store, check all of the machines again and post a list of my observations.
                            Originally posted by 16252A203D1B036A440 link=1260663210/10#10 date=1260738961
                            Depending on the amount of space inside, it would be an easy matter to reinforce the mounting from behind with two strips of flat or angle steel stock.
                            When Im paying $2000 + for a machine I wouldnt expect to have to make modifications of this nature.
                            Perhaps Im creating a storm in a tea cup and the flex is of no consequence, however Id still like an informed explanation.

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                            • #15
                              Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                              I have a Isomac Tea and have no flexing under normal use,There is some if you lay in to it but that was the same as with my VBM. Domabar.

                              With the Tea you dont need use a lot of presser to lock the group handle and I have not had it blow off yet .

                              Cheers Gra.

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