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  • #16
    Re: E61 Group Head flex?

    Originally posted by 72414E44597F670E200 link=1260663210/10#10 date=1260738961
    In my experience, it takes FAR less force to get the seal using my VBM DS than it did with Silvia.
    Yes Randy, agree with you on that one.

    I can lock-in the Group Handle of my Diadema Junior Extra with just two fingers. No need for gut busting force which must also accelerate wear and tear too....

    Mal.

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    • #17
      Re: E61 Group Head flex?

      Originally posted by 567B7F737E120 link=1260663210/15#15 date=1260773245
      No need for gut busting force
      Evening Mal, Im not talking about anything approaching (gut busting force) I realise the handles lock in with little effort but the fact of the matter is that the group heads on a lot of these machines do flex, not looking for an argument or trying to stir, simply seeking an explanation.

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      • #18
        Re: E61 Group Head flex?

        Originally posted by 1F232A3227460 link=1260663210/16#16 date=1260773774
        not looking for an argument or trying to stir, simply seeking an explanation.  
        Neither am I mate but I have noticed that some people really do put their back into it. My old Bezz is pretty easy to lock-in as well so I cant help but make the observation....

        Mal.

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        • #19
          Re: E61 Group Head flex?

          Originally posted by 270A0E020F630 link=1260663210/17#17 date=1260775212
          some people really do put their back into it
          Not me.

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          • #20
            Re: E61 Group Head flex?

            VDS flexes very easily compared to the Galatea. course, this depends on lugs, group handle and strength of forearms.

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            • #21
              Re: E61 Group Head flex?

              Pretty sure Ive worked out whats happening.
              Had the cover of mine today and as RandyG said the E61 head is secured to the machine frame/front plate with 2 x 12 mm studs, if the nuts are tightened securely on the studs the head cannot move its impossible, however if the frame of the machine is fabricated from relatively light weight steel the front mounting plate can flex and this is what I am seeing.
              So what happens is every time the plate flexes the 2 copper tubes connecting the boiler to the group head also flex, as do any other copper tubes connecting to the front plate i.e. steam/hot water gauges etc though to a lesser degree because they tend to be mounted toward the edges of the plate and would not be affected to the same degree.
              So in a nutshell machines exhibiting this characteristic have a light weight frame/front plate, in fact too light to do the job it is intended to do.
              There is no doubt in my mind its a weak point, weak enough to eventually lead to the pipes to the GH cracking? maybe, maybe not, only time will tell.  

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              • #22
                Re: E61 Group Head flex?

                I have a Tea and I have noticed this flex, but it is only slight and only when I was stupidly trying to jam in an overfilled handle.. Keep in mind copper is pretty soft and copper water pipes get water hammer all day long... i doubt the few millimetres of flex would cause a problem - particularly if you are easy on it.

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