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    Hi all,

    Im wondering how to maintain the water filter that is attached to the end of my water intake pipe on my Diadema Junior.

    Ive searched and read a few threads here about how important it is to maintain, but cant find any instructions/tips. Ive also looked on coffeeparts etc for replacement filters and parts and cant see any.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Andrew.

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    Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

    Hi Andrew,

    Give it a swim in a tall glass of water with a couple of tablespoons of dissolved salt for at least 1/2 hour. Even overnight is fine. Rinse well and reinstall it

    2mcm

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    • #3
      Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

      I talked to Bombora and got a great simple filter system for a great price. This will probably mean the softener in my Sunbeam will last for ages.

      Cheers,
      Ben.

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      • #4
        Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

        You should find some deestructions on this in the blue covered owner booklet provided by the manufacturer, probably on the last page before the the booklet then goes to the next available language  ;D

        Otherwise it is as Chris said!

        They are said to soften about 30 litres (??? from memory????...or was it 15???) so be sure to keep a rough track of how much water you are using. Far better to just pick an arbitrary but calculated interval and do the operation then say....once a month for example. Stick a card on the side of the machine and write down the date every time you do it.

        Say...every 6 months take a very close look at the fibre filter at the top of the cartridge and make sure it looks ok. For a real close look just flip off the bottom intake cover, drop the beads into a cup, and remove the plastic retainer and fibre disc at top of the plastic body. Wash out in water and inspect. If it looks like it is losing its integrity, buy another mini softener pronto. We sell...

        In such case (that it looks like it is losing its integrity) its ok (and better) to run the machine without the softener on at all for a short time while you wait for a new replacement.

        Say once a year, just buy a new softener and ditch the old one. The last thing you want is for the fibre disc already mentioned to disintegrate and allow the beads to get sucked through into the machine, as it then requires a stripout of all piping to try and remove them to stop blockages.

        Beware that if ever replacing the factory supplied softener/filter, that whatever you use needs to have anti scale properties. Particle filters that dont have anti scale properties are not fit for purpose and in our area, the build up of scale is much much much more prevalent than the possibility of an occasional blockage due to "particles".

        Have fun and enjoy your great little machine.

        Rgdz,
        Attilio
        very first CS sie sponsor

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        • #5
          Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

          Thank you all for the comments and explanations of maintenance.

          I believe the softener on my intake pipe is beyond saving at this stage. The contents of the softener is a murky brownish colour. It hasnt been changed for a few years at least.

          Does Melbourne water need softening? I will use only pre-filtered water with the machine anyway.

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          • #6
            Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

            Originally posted by 7E717B6D7A681F0 link=1300164138/4#4 date=1300228793
            Does Melbourne water need softening? I will use only pre-filtered water with the machine anyway.
            In general, yes...

            I have seen a few machines from various locations which were run on tap water showing little if any scale.

            More often than not though, Melbourne machines beyond a year old usually show significant scale unless their water is appropriately treated.

            I find most owners assume that if they have a filter of any description, all will be ok. Most filters are just designed for drinking water, not coffee and this misunderstanding is often the reason for pretty badly scaled machines.

            Chris

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            • #7
              Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

              Attilio,

              Do you sell these via your website? Can you shoot through a link??

              Cheers,
              Sam

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              • #8
                Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

                Many sponsors have them Sam.

                Ours is located at http://shop.talkcoffee.com.au/products/resin-filter-in-line

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                • #9
                  Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

                  Thanks for the link Chris, that is exactly what Im talking about and it definitely isnt that colour anymore.

                  So just to clarify, you think it is necessary to use a water filter system, and an in tank resin filter in conjunction. And for best results the initial water filter system must be coffee specific...?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

                    Originally posted by 69666C7A6D7F080 link=1300164138/8#8 date=1300238028
                    So just to clarify, you think it is necessary to use a water filter system, and an in tank resin filter in conjunction.
                    Hi Andrew,

                    If you have a coffee specific water filter- purchased from Bombora or similar, the resin filter is neither here nor there. If its a drinking water filter from a major, plumbing supplies place et al, it will do little or nothing at all for scale.

                    Chris

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                    • #11
                      Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

                      Very interesting, so for example using a Brita jug does nothing for scale; it is just good for chlorine etc. I note that some sponsors here recommend them for minimising scale. However, the Brita jug in conjunction with a fresh resin in tank filter may be sufficient for both getting rid of chlorine and for removing scale, and will meantime retain some natural flavour?

                      Just trying to decide whether to purchase a new resin filter or just get a proper coffee-jug style filter from Bombora etc.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

                        Originally posted by 000F05130416610 link=1300164138/10#10 date=1300238846
                        However, the Brita jug in conjunction with a fresh resin in tank filter may be sufficient for both getting rid of chlorine and for removing scale, and will meantime retain some natural flavour?
                        Brita plus in tank filter will not remove all scale.
                        They may slow it down.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

                          Sam, we dont sell "via website"/. Just send us an email and our service people can reply with specifics.

                          Andrew, earlier "mini softeners" used different compound resin beads that were an orange colour to start with rather than the kind of beige colour you see in them now. And if course as they age they darken up to a dirrty orangy brown and part of that will be crap thats been trapped in there as water passes through (thats the "particle filter" part of it working). Of course its water softening (scale inhibiting) properties will have been saturated and stopped happening long time ago if the thing hasnt been "recharged" regularly with salt to continue its "softening" (scale inhibiting) ability over time, per Chriss description.

                          I will say again.....a water filter that has NO scale inhibiting properties is not fit for purpose.

                          Regardz,
                          A.

                          In any case, if yours is a few years old buy a new one now before the fibre disc at the top gives out and allows beads into your machine.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

                            Attilio,

                            Thank you very much for your informative posts. I will certainly be getting a new resin filter. Considering my options for further filtration as well.

                            Thanks everyone,
                            Andrew.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Maintenance of water softener/filter on end of water intake pipe

                              Youre welcome, and I Very Much appreciate your "thankyou" !

                              Over and out,
                              A

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