Hi all,
I was thinking to upgrade to HX/E61 machine for a while. I plan to treat myself as a graduation gift once I graduate.
Lucky or unlucky, there is a 2nd (in fact, 3nd) hand ECM Giotto Glassic (10 yrs old) was for sale close to me (Charters Towers).
I assume few of CSers must keep eye on this one.
I have a bit negotiate with the price, not as bargain as JamesC and other Giotto owners I have read.
But its close to my saving, they through in a boema grinder (which is even more terrible) as a set.
I am happy to have this 10yrs old classic Giotto, and I believe the machine itself must be more happy to have a owner who love it.
(I saw this machine sitting next to a corner, and owner said they only use that 3-4 times after buying from a local cafe).
Lucky, the owner try a bit effort to replace some consumables.
(group seal, wand, gasket etc).
So I dont have to do the semi-rebuild work like JamesC did.
However, when I start to backflush and open it up, I believe it need a huge cleaning and descaling either.
I read the topic about how to descaling the HX machine since it a different compared to boiler type.
And I just like to confirm that "NOT" to use the normal citric acid, I should use the proper commercial descaler, right?
Because I assume the machine is pretty scaled, maybe need a stronger descaler?
Of course, I am going to remove the "mushroom" first to see how it scaled.
Besides, anything I should be aware of? any suggestion?
I am thinking about send the machine to a local machine service, but since I have send my three weeks living expense on this machine.
I may have to tie my pocket a bit before I start to earn the really money.
Cheers
Colin

I was thinking to upgrade to HX/E61 machine for a while. I plan to treat myself as a graduation gift once I graduate.
Lucky or unlucky, there is a 2nd (in fact, 3nd) hand ECM Giotto Glassic (10 yrs old) was for sale close to me (Charters Towers).
I assume few of CSers must keep eye on this one.
I have a bit negotiate with the price, not as bargain as JamesC and other Giotto owners I have read.
But its close to my saving, they through in a boema grinder (which is even more terrible) as a set.
I am happy to have this 10yrs old classic Giotto, and I believe the machine itself must be more happy to have a owner who love it.
(I saw this machine sitting next to a corner, and owner said they only use that 3-4 times after buying from a local cafe).
Lucky, the owner try a bit effort to replace some consumables.
(group seal, wand, gasket etc).
So I dont have to do the semi-rebuild work like JamesC did.
However, when I start to backflush and open it up, I believe it need a huge cleaning and descaling either.
I read the topic about how to descaling the HX machine since it a different compared to boiler type.
And I just like to confirm that "NOT" to use the normal citric acid, I should use the proper commercial descaler, right?
Because I assume the machine is pretty scaled, maybe need a stronger descaler?
Of course, I am going to remove the "mushroom" first to see how it scaled.
Besides, anything I should be aware of? any suggestion?
I am thinking about send the machine to a local machine service, but since I have send my three weeks living expense on this machine.
I may have to tie my pocket a bit before I start to earn the really money.
Cheers
Colin




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