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    Well, Ive finally moved up here to the pointy end and I must say, the views a lot better!

    I am failing to get any consistant results with the 4 hole steam tip on the BZ, so I tried blanking two holes off with toothpick ends and *bingo*, perfect smooth microfoam. So, now Im looking for a 2 hole tip as I dont want to solder/braze the existing 4 hole.

    Id like to know if anybody out there knows what 2 hole tip will fit the steam arm? Im not sure what thread the tip has, as the drawings only mention that its a steam tip with a male thread, but not what thread size.


    b4b.



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    Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

    Originally posted by beanz4brainz link=1210413188/0#0 date=1210413188
    Well, Ive finally moved up here to the pointy end and I must say, the views a lot better!  
    cheeky bugger.... :P

    L

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    • #3
      Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

      Originally posted by Lizzi link=1210413188/0#1 date=1210413531
      Originally posted by beanz4brainz link=1210413188/0#0 date=1210413188
      Well, Ive finally moved up here to the pointy end and I must say, the views a lot better!  
      cheeky bugger....  :P

      L

      Cmon Lizzi..... ya know what Mal does with off topic threads! :P ;D ;D


      b4b.

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      • #4
        Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

        I hate my two hole steam tip. I get microfoam once every 5 times I steam with it. Blocked one of the holes with a toothpick.

        I had pretty good results when steaming on a marzocco steam wand (4 holes)

        want to trade? lol

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        • #5
          Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

          Originally posted by Lizzi link=1210413188/0#1 date=1210413531
          Originally posted by beanz4brainz link=1210413188/0#0 date=1210413188
          Well, Ive finally moved up here to the pointy end and I must say, the views a lot better!
          cheeky bugger.... :P

          L
          Exactly what I thought Lizzi..... :

          Mal.

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          • #6
            Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

            Originally posted by Mal link=1210413188/0#4 date=1210441038
            Originally posted by Lizzi link=1210413188/0#1 date=1210413531
            Originally posted by beanz4brainz link=1210413188/0#0 date=1210413188
            Well, Ive finally moved up here to the pointy end and I must say, the views a lot better!  
            cheeky bugger....  :P

            L
            Exactly what I thought Lizzi..... :

            Mal.
            ,
            Darn. I actually thought somebody might answer my question! Guess the icebreaker made me too big a target to resist. :P


            Originally posted by Gavin1 link=1210413188/0#3 date=1210426268
            want to trade? lol

            No thanks Gavin, but thanks all the same. I always try to keep whatever machinery I own, able to be changed back to original spec.


            b4b.


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            • #7
              Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

              you should be able to get a two hole from coffeeparts.

              The thing is, all two hole tips are angled differently so dont go ordering two holes hoping theyre all the same

              mine is angeld in such a way that when one hole is whirlpooling the milk, the other is pushing in the other direction.

              The pros do about 200mls of milk for two on a commercial 4 hole tip. If they can do it, with a little bit of practice a lot of milk down the sink, I reckon you can do it too!



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              • #8
                Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

                Most two hole tips have very small holes and make texturing quite S----L----O----W and I found you really need to drill them out a bit.... They are really designed for machines with less steam output. The tip supplied with the machine is what the manufacturer has designed the machine to use.

                But as Gavin said above.... you can texture small volumes of milk perfectly with a four hole (and Im no pro)....

                It is fast, and very non forgiving but once you have mastered it it is really easy! You need to sacrifice some time - and quite a bit of milk initially - but it can be mastered....

                When I started using a commercial machine - just keeping the milk in the jug was a challenge.... now making microfoam is easy peasy..... just takes some practice!!

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                • #9
                  Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

                  Originally posted by beanz4brainz link=1210413188/0#0 date=1210413188
                  Well, Ive finally moved up here to the pointy end and I must say, the views a lot better!  

                  I am failing to get any consistant results with the 4 hole steam tip on the BZ, so I tried blanking two holes off with toothpick ends and *bingo*, perfect smooth microfoam.   So, now Im looking for a 2 hole tip as I dont want to solder/braze the existing 4 hole.

                  Id like to know if anybody out there knows what 2 hole tip will fit the steam arm?   Im not sure what thread the tip has, as the drawings only mention that its a steam tip with a male thread, but not what thread size.


                  b4b.

                  Yeah b4b
                  Man this machine makes a great espresso but the grind must be spot on
                  However B4B I have the same milk problem with my Bezzera Domus the steam is so powerful that the milk gets hot in about 5 seconds or less

                  So instead of practicing on milk try practicing on water for swirl technique and strength of steam.
                  Hope it helps as I am still getting used to it myself with mixed results. (Anyone for flat white)

                  However on that note I will go to see Chris or Jack at Barazi Brisbane sometime during the week for a hand’s on demo to see what I am doing wrong
                  I will get back to you after my success
                  Koffee Kosmo


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                  • #10
                    Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.


                    Thanks for that.

                    Ill give Pedro of Coffeeparts a call tomorrow.

                    Thanks for that tip Java. Should be easy if the new holes are too small. I have a chockie box full of small drills in #, letter and fractional sizes.

                    Basically Im very Lazy, :-[ so the challenge of working with the standard 4 hole tip doesnt really appeal to me.


                    b4b.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.


                      B4B

                      Went to Barazi Brisbane today for a practice on milk frothing with 4 hole tip.

                      The weak link was me
                      This is the tecnique

                      Make sure all steam holes are working but release preasure about 3-5 seconds before starting (dont block any up as it alters the steam angles)

                      To steam milk
                      Turn steam knob from 3/4 to full steam strength quickly

                      Use small 300ml jug for 1 cup and 600ml jug for 2 cup
                      and steam with swirl tecnique as normal

                      Chris said its a commercial tip so expect quick results 5 to 8 seconds
                      adjust the hight of tip quicker than normal
                      Expect a 3 week practice period before you are any good at it

                      Now to practice

                      Koffee Kosmo

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                      • #12
                        Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

                        KK I dont understand the timing.

                        When do you put the wand in the milk, when do you turn steam to 3/4 and when to full?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

                          Hi all,

                          The 4 hole tip on the domus galatea is inherently fine and is pretty easy to use.

                          With any new tip there is a learning curve....

                          General suggestions:[*]Work just below the surface. If you hear any screaming sounds, youre way too deep[*]Orient the wand to create a whirlpool. I tend to rest the back of the jug on the back of the want and angle the wand a touch to create the whirlpool[*]Complete any required stretch (e.g for capp.) asap whilst maintaining swirl. This will remove any big bubbles if you slipped whilst stretching...[*]No need to tilt the jug- orient the wand instead[*]No need to immerse the wand at the end of the event as the milk will track a little way up the wand anyway

                          Usually, if the sounds are good and you have a whirlpool, the outcome will be great as well. If bubbles appear in the milk post-texturing, change milk!

                          The Domobar Super wand is more challenging than the Galatea, but is still very good when you get used to it ;-)

                          Good luck

                          Chris

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                          • #14
                            Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

                            IMO 4 hole tips are easier to work on. It is quite similar to a single hole tip in the sense that you are looking for a whirlpool vortex and can steam little amounts of milk easier. Only tricky bit is that the milk heats up very quick.

                            With a two hole tip, the tumbling requires more depth in the milk. So steaming one portion of milk by tumbling on a two hole tip will definitely require a tiny jug.

                            The 600ml conical-ish jug that I have is horrible when I try to tumble the milk. But when I swap to a 500ml jug which isnt as conical, the milk sits a little higher and tumbling works.

                            Definitely experiment with different milk. Ive had mixed results with just one brand of milk.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Bezzera Domus Galatea 2 hole steam tip.

                              Originally posted by Gavin1 link=1210413188/0#13 date=1210583963
                              IMO 4 hole tips are easier to work on
                              I still maintain that the standard 8mm male Giotto tip is the best tip I have ever used...Its a no brainer for perfect microfoam every time 8-). The porting is the perfect 15 deg or thereabouts and 1.5mm holes. Its a perfect mix of speed and accuracy....

                              A VBM tip when modified to mimic this porting produces a transformed milk texture experience.

                              Chris

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