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  • #16
    Re: From Sunbeam to Giotto - I need help!!

    The mazzer mini doser is a great match for your giotto TB. Not only will it look right, it will perform well. One ofthe main advantages of doser grinders is that they break up clumping that can occur.

    Like all grinders though, it has its quirks, and can be a bit messy as it throws grinds to the left as you dose. You can however prevent this with either fast thwacking of the lever, a relatively easy mod to the grinder, or a combination of both.

    Hope that helps!

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    • #17
      Re: From Sunbeam to Giotto - I need help!!

      TB
      There is a steep learning curve for the Giotto.  It is because it can make coffee equal to the very best commercial machines. One problem is that for the home brewer is that we are making cups sort of a few here and a few there where as the shops are brewing continually so they can fine turn what they are doing and repeat it.  Their commercial machines are infinitely adjustable and serious cafes can afford to have them set up and checked regularly.  ----- Even so some of the people behind these machines still manage to make frightful coffee.

      I am just coming out of a steep curve (again)  my coffee today was superb.  I think the grinder and the grinds evenly spread before the tamp are critical.

      Giotto is a great machine - be patient.
      Dumiya

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      • #18
        Re: From Sunbeam to Giotto - I need help!!

        Youre absolutely right Dumiya, without the regular repeating, making the perfect espresso is difficultn and this process is made more difficult as I hate the thought of wasting good coffee just practising.

        I have realised that I need to equip myself with the right tools for the job and that a little knowledge can be dangerous!!!!

        I am looking forward to my one on one session and trialling the Mazzer mini and Ks grinders. I have also checked out the Pullman tamper website and am most excited about a purchase there too.

        Thanks for all of your support, I love it and appreciate all your tidbits and advice. TB

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        • #19
          Re: From Sunbeam to Giotto - I need help!!

          twistiebrinkley,

          I am surprised non one has pickup up on your comment about your shoulder being sore from tamping. I think you may be making the same mistake i made at first. You only need to tamp to about 15kg which sounds a lot but really is not. Get youself a bathroom scale and place your portafilter on that then tamp. This will give you an idea what force you are exerting - you will be surprised how little you need to push to get to 15kg.

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          • #20
            Re: From Sunbeam to Giotto - I need help!!

            I teamed up my Giotto PP with a Compak K3 touch, cheaper than Ks & MM, results with the Giotto are very consistent.

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            • #21
              Re: From Sunbeam to Giotto - I need help!!

              Ive done it - I upgraded to the Macap M4d and have had some private lessons. Ive still a long way to go, but getting better. any advice on either the Giotto or Macap would be appreciated.

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              • #22
                Re: From Sunbeam to Giotto - I need help!!

                Youve done it all right--good machine, grinder, and lessons. Just add good fresh beans and practice with a bit of variation--one thing at a time--and youll find the sweet spot and the mods needed for different beans and weather conditions. Yes, the weather affects the coffee process.

                I really like the videos of Scottie Callaghan on a VBM, which should serve as a reminder of your lessons. Here: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1226534950

                Enjoy the coffee.

                Greg

                ps--on the Macap--"coarser is clockwise"!

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