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  • Koffee_Kosmo
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    Find your unique tamp or depth level for your machine Oton
    And tamp to that level from then on, hopefully you wont have further problems associated with the puck touching your water screen

    Coffee when wet expands so Its ok to have an indentation as long as it does not touch the screen when you lock in the PF with dry puck
    KK

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  • oton
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    Im learning more things day by day. Thanks.

    Using double basket and grinding coarser the puck does not stick to the group. At least for now.

    I have a problem with S. Callaghan tools. The idea behind this tools seems to me great, but it does not work for me... or I do something wrong...

    I fill the PF and with the #30 tool I remove the excess of coffee, however the shower screen still touches the coffee.


    (the pic is after the brew, but before the shower screen had already touched)


    This is due to the 53mm spaziale design and the S1 double shower screen?

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  • flynnaus
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    Proper dosing is one of the more difficult aspects of espresso making. I bought digital scales and started measuring out set quantities but the dose can vary depending on bean type, atmospheric conditions, grind etc.

    What worked for me was to start at a point for a double. The double for my machine takes 18 - 19g si I used that as a starting point. You can also follow Thundergods advice to use your double basket as a measuring device. I use a 1/4 cup measuring cup.

    As roknee stated, the pour time should be roughly the same but measurements are only guidelines and I dont bother timing my shots any more. Just go by appearance of the pour and depth in the cup. If you get a 20 second pour of 60mL using a 17g double and it tastes great then thats all that matters.

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  • roknee
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    hey oton, the time for a double should be roughly the same time as for the single. so, yeah pouring 50-60ml in ~25-30secs is about right, but rules were meant to be broken sometimes. good starting point though

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  • oton
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    Spaziale uses 53mm baskets.

    I think you are right. It seems too fine grind and underdose. I going to use the double basket and I will see what happens. I will tell you.

    Im little confused about double shots. If single shot is 7gr/25-30ml/25 sec, double shot should be 14gr/50-60ml/50 sec... but I think this is not correct... :-?

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  • Koffee_Kosmo
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    Originally posted by 742B33252E2529202023232B2728460 link=1223757405/68#68 date=1234751829
    The can be a tad tough for the LaSpaz KK. It has 54mm baskets.
    Ahh sorry Oton

    Originally posted by 742B33252E2529202023232B2728460 link=1223757405/68#68 date=1234751829
    Id agree to ditch the single. Looking through the symptoms though, it may be an underdose and too fine grind issue.
    That was going to be my next answer :

    Find the correct depth in your basket/s by trial & error
    The coffee grounds when the PF is locked in should just miss the water screen of the machine then use that depth all future tamping
    I would grind courser and tamp firmer as well
    Looking at your stuck puck it may be to fine a grind

    KK

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  • GregWormald
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    My old La San Marco machine had smaller diameter baskets. I measured these as about 53 or 54 mm--and they come in singles, doubles and triples? Any idea if they would fit?

    Greg

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  • roknee
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    id second flynn aus advce and stick with the double basket for now.

    kk - id love if there wre options for a triple basket for the spaz, but seems like there just aint any. shame on you 58mm guys for complaining about too much choice re dbl and triple baskets..

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  • TC
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    Originally posted by 6A4E474744447E6A4E524C4E210 link=1223757405/67#67 date=1234750862
    Sometimes its the basket itself Oton
    Try to borrow another basket with a different profile just to try

    KK
    The can be a tad tough for the LaSpaz KK as it has non standard baskets.

    Id agree to ditch the single. Looking through the symptoms though, it may be an underdose and too fine grind issue.

    2mcm

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  • Koffee_Kosmo
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    Sometimes its the basket itself Oton
    Try to borrow another basket with a different profile just to try

    KK

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  • flynnaus
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    I had exactly the same problem using a single basket. The puck sticks to the group head and its very hard to get a good shot . Standard advice is to use the double basket instead and pour yourself a doppio/double ristretto or pour a single and conserve the second shot in the freezer for iced coffee or other coffee-based recipe.

    Others have mentioned how they manage a single basket shot. Try this thread

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1232400072/20#20

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  • oton
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    Re: Splendor Unico vs Spaziale S1

    Thank you for the answers.  


    My god... thats more difficult than I thought. Horrible shots.

    Look at this:



    LOL. Why this happens? I fill the single basket with 7.0 gr. Tamp with Espro. Brew 25-30ml in 25 sec, but watery, bad taste (not sure if its sour ot bitter, or the 2 at same time, lol)

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  • roknee
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    so oton we now share the same machine (only difference iss mine is rotary plumbed). look forward to sharing stories of perfecting whats in the cup.
    aaron

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  • Dimal
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    Very, very nice Oton.... 8-)

    Superb setup there mate. Youre going to be making lots of "coffee friends" soon you do realise; you know, like "lottery friends"... :

    Definitely Happy Brewing in the future for you Oton

    Cheers,
    Mal.

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  • redzone121
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    Oton, thats a great looking set up ! Very pleased for you, enjoy 8-)

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