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  • #31
    Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

    Originally posted by 7B636D646471080 link=1238041001/25#25 date=1248168588
    Yeah Im in Auckland.

    When you get yours, let us know if it has vibiemme logo on it (between dials), and how tall the machine is?

    Ive had too many coffees since 5pm..hehehe.
    Hi again, got mine today - seems to be a very well made machine.I see what you mean about the feet.Shiny chrome finish on the bottom slides everywhere - nothing a few stick on rubber dots wont fix.
    Mine came set at boiler pressure of 1.5 - 1.7! and a brew pressure of 11.5 Bar.Ive adjusted both of those down to 1.1 and 9 bar resectively.
    Total height including the handles is 405mm, and yes it has the laser etched logo.I too had seen some pics of ones without the logo and im glad it is there is mine.

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    • #32
      Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

      Originally posted by 2521282B25273A3A4E0 link=1238041001/30#30 date=1248405157
      Ive adjusted both of those down to 1.1 and 9 bar resectively
      Right hand gauge measures system pressure and not the pressure at the group head.

      Its usually 1-1.5 bars higher than the pressure at the group as Chris mentioned.

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      • #33
        Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

        Originally posted by 46424B48464459592D0 link=1238041001/24#24 date=1248165559
        The NZ ones have the 1.45l boiler, not 1.8L
        Hi Kofekitt,

        Congratulation for the new machine! Just received a confirmation from ECA that specs of the Australian model are as the NZ ones: 1.45L, 1600w element. Dimensions: 22.5x35x 40. Weight: 18kg net

        Anyone interested in more details or placing it on backorder, please PM me.

        Ofra

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        • #34
          Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

          Originally posted by 0E283F202778490 link=1238041001/31#31 date=1248411475
          Right hand gauge measures system pressure and not the pressure at the group head.
          Hi, thanks for that, id taken that into consideration - guage still reads about 10 during a shot.
          Originally posted by 0D20160B283B3D262520490 link=1238041001/32#32 date=1248418184
          Congratulation for the new machine! Just received a confirmation from ECA that specs of the Australian model are as the NZ ones: 1.45L, 1600w element. Dimensions: 22.5x35x 40. Weight: 18kg net
          Interesting point about that-the box it came in still said domobar super, junior was added on in marker, and the label on the machine even says domobar super 1800W, not 1600W like the junior is supposed to be? Not sure why this is, even the vibiemme website doest mention the junior.

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          • #35
            Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

            Which is the brew pressure adjustment knob? And how far do i need to turn it for a 1bar reduction?
            I think ill turn mine down a little..coffee is blonding at around the 20sec mark, so a little on the hot side, i think (?).
            My machine also requires a cooling flush of a few seconds if its been on a while.

            ON the temp note, its pretty easy to get the boiler to stay on - a couple of seconds of steam is all thats needed to cycle it when starting up. Not sure how healthy it is for the element, but it can bring the warmup time down from 30mins to 15.

            The naming is a bit confusing..not sure abut the 1.5L vs 1.8L boiler size in the NZ versions - physically it looks bigger than 1.5, but I doubt it matters in real life. I think i ran out of steam once, and ive noticed the boiler come on during a shot, once or twice.

            I read somewhere that the Domobar naming goes like this:
            Domobar (E61 but Non-HX, small size)
            Domobar Super Junior (HX, 1.5L boiler, mid size)
            Domobar Super Double, or "DoubleDomo" (twin boiler, mid size)
            Domobar Super Lever (HX, 2.8L boiler, large size, lever operated)
            Domobar Super Pulsante (HX, 2.8L boiler, large size, single push button operated)
            Domobar Super Electronica (HX, 2.8L boiler, large size, multiple buttons and dosing controls)

            So I guess weve never had the Domobar (which is similar to the Isomac Zaffiro).

            Anyways, after owning mine for about 1.5kg worth of beans Im still really happy with it. THough, I havent actually improved my shot quality since my first shot! So , id say its very easy to get okay quality coffee, but getting excellent ones still requires skill (which i dont have).

            Ive been very impressed with the steaming ability.. no issues whatsoever, except i wish somebody would create a steam wand that angles toward the group - Then it could be used for cleaning, instead of a brush...tell me that wouldnt be handy!

            This machine does vibrate when the water resoviour is below 1/4 capacity.
            However, this should be easy to fix. The pump is not the issue - its very quiet. The plastic resovior sits on a steel sprung plate which detects its weight. This metal plate is loose on its mounts, and rattles around furiously when theres not enough weight to push it down firmly.
            Try operating the pump while appling a small amount of finger pressure to the resovior - itll completely stop the vibration. So, Im looking for some silicon bakeware to cut up and wedge in behind the resovior somewhere - hopefully that works (and doesnt interfere with the wieght sensor, which might be fatal).

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            • #36
              Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

              Originally posted by 2D353B3232275E0 link=1238041001/34#34 date=1248749473
              Which is the brew pressure adjustment knob? And how far do i need to turn it for a 1bar reduction?
              I think ill turn mine down a little..coffee is blonding at around the 20sec mark, so a little on the hot side, i think (?).
              If you look at the pic above in my post, there is a brass t shaped junction, on my machine it points out to the left side of the machine when youve got the cover off.Youll know its the o.p.v because it has a tube returning to the resovoir.Turn the slotted screw 1/4 turn at a time in the anti-clockwise direction to decrease pressure
              Originally posted by 2D353B3232275E0 link=1238041001/34#34 date=1248749473
              ON the temp note, its pretty easy to get the boiler to stay on - a couple of seconds of steam is all thats needed to cycle it when starting up. Not sure how healthy it is for the element, but it can bring the warmup time down from 30mins to 15.
              As soon as mines up to temp initially-i run about 2-3 oz water thru the grouphead and group handle to help warm things up
              Originally posted by 2D353B3232275E0 link=1238041001/34#34 date=1248749473
              I read somewhere that the Domobar naming goes like this:
              Domobar(E61 but Non-HX, small size)
              Domobar Super Junior (HX, 1.5L boiler, mid size)
              Domobar Super Double, or "DoubleDomo" (twin boiler, mid size)
              Domobar Super Lever (HX, 2.8L boiler, large size, lever operated)
              Domobar Super Pulsante (HX, 2.8L boiler, large size, single push button operated)
              Domobar Super Electronica (HX, 2.8L boiler, large size, multiple buttons and dosing controls)
              Theres also a junior double boiler, not available nz market but sold in Germany and the U.S
              Originally posted by 2D353B3232275E0 link=1238041001/34#34 date=1248749473
              This machine does vibrate when the water resoviour is below 1/4 capacity.
              Youre spot on there - its definately more of a hollow plastic container type of vibration than any metal vibration

              Overall im very impressed with it.Awesome steam power - i was really surprised.Its almost too quick for my 4-5 oz milk, but im sure itll just take a little practice.

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              • #37
                Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                Heres a better pic of the o.p.v. This one is on a different machine but its an identical o.p.v

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                • #38
                  Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                  sweet, i made the adustment...10.5 at the gauge during a shot now, and after a bit of practise, it has improved the coffee

                  pretty easy adjustment to make.. also took the opportunity to add some anti-vibration measures (in the form of silicon baking tray and insulation tape)

                  label does say 1800w.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                    *bump*

                    just following up after a few months..
                    I absolutely love this machine!!

                    Its making fantastic coffee, is very easy & quick warm up and operate, and is still a real pleasure to use. I probably havent tested the limits of what its capable of, but has reeled out 6 or 7 lattes without breaking a sweat. It does require a small cooling flush (few seconds) if left on continuously.


                    It took me a month to get the perfect routine down (most the trick seems to be in the tamping)

                    There have been no faults, but it did require a pressure stat adjustment (as outlined above), and some routine lubrication to the lever (following a backflush) - both easy service tasks for anybody, and gave me the opportunity to see how the machine is built internally: "like a tank"


                    AAA+++ "would trade again"

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                    • #40
                      Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                      Hi skelly great to hear that you a still "stoked" with your machine. I currently have a Rocky and am seriously considering the Junior also, just have to wait for Oz stock to arrive and the chance to have a peek. Do you feel that the Rocky is up to the task or is that the focus of the "next" upgrade?

                      Steve

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                      • #41
                        Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                        Hey steve,
                        I couldnt say for certain, as I havent tried other grinders with this particular machine. I also buy a different variety of beans almost every week, so its pretty difficult to tell if i get the grinder set perfectly or not.

                        I think the combo would be more than adequate, unless youre very fussy about perfect coffee. The attraction of the E61 is that its very forgiving. If the grinder isnt set perfectly, the tamp pressure can be varied to compensate. Its difficult not to pull a great shot.

                        I imagine I would only upgrade the grinder once I start to roast my own beans...maybe when the rocky dies ...so, about 10 years from now.


                        More importantly, with the rocky:
                        1. Get the click clack lid. It seals perfectly, and allows you to pump a amazing amount of excess ground coffee out of the spout.
                        2. Remove the little metal stand from the front of the rocky (that the group handle sits on). Without it, you can easily crush the clumps of coffee against the spout, as they come out. It also rattles less.
                        3. The "teflon tape mod" is supposed to reduce static..Im not sure it did anything for me.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                          Originally posted by 3129272E2E3B420 link=1238041001/40#40 date=1255901046
                          3. The "teflon tape mod" is supposed to reduce static..Im not sure it did anything for me.
                          ???
                          I thought it tightened the burrs on the thread, effecting a more consistent grind and quietening the machine, didnt know it affected static! well there ya go! learn something everyday! ;D

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                          • #43
                            Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                            yeah i was puzzelled also.. maybe an inaccurate forum post gave me the wrong idea? :P

                            either way ..for static, or for vibration.. the tape mod did nothing. I guess it wasnt broken to begin with.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                              Yeah ive heard that it does next to nothing for some, lucky ones i suppose, a good test is to attempt to wiggle the hopper, and if there is any movement, do the tape mod. It made a big difference to mine, especially that sound

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                              • #45
                                Re: Vibiemme Domobar Junior?

                                Is the wiggle test for clockwise/counter clockwise movement of the hopper or side to side (east/west)? Does this question actually make sense?

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