Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
I purchased my Tea in Perth and factory settings were 1.5 boiler and 11bar for brewing. I have adjusted the boiler back to 1.2 now and the brew to 9.5 bar, still getting good steam power for milk and shes not running too hot now, still needs a flush if left sitting for a while.
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Thanks Renzo for the congrats, and thanks Ofra for the feedback on your tests. Its encouraging to hear the results. I havent experienced any of the negatives that were previously reported.
Its good to hear that you are getting great results too, Rachel. Definately a great present!!
My wife loves coffee too, so plenty of opportunity to practice. Im usually keen to get some feedback and was surprised to start getting some scores of 11 out of 10 from her! Consistency is getting better and the ratings scale needs adjusting again
. Not surprisingly, our coffee consumption has gone up too.
An unexpected outcome is that the local coffee place near work still gets its fair share of business from me because its getting even harder to cope with the coffee produced from the large expensive automatic machine at work. I guess the savings I was planning to make to help cover the new machine have to come from somewhere else...
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
It seems so. Weve had an ongoing discussion for few months now with the importer with regards to the Tea running "hot" and it does look like theyve been more attentative to feedback and now have all units come with above reading straight from the box. Steam pressure was set to 1.2 bar.Originally posted by 3A657D6B606B676E6E6D6D656966080 link=1240742933/38#38 date=1243576010Nevertheless, its good to see these readings. Have they finally had an ephiphany on the production line?
Ofra
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Im surprised Ofra- as we keep hearing that these run hot and at 1.5 bar out of the box as set by the factory :-? Nevertheless, its good to see these readings. Have they finally had an epiphany on the production line?
Out of curiosity, have you profiled the machine across more than one or two shots and can you let us in on what you have found?
CSers- another reminder of why its good to support CS sponsors....
regards
2mcm
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Not surprising Kev, today weve sacased a new Tea for a customer and it came from factory at 93 degrees celsius and Apprx 9.2 bar of pressure = 140psi. We were very pleased with the way it came from factory and the shots weve pulled from it.Originally posted by 323C2F6E6E6E590 link=1240742933/33#33 date=1243264210I was expecting to have to play around while getting used to the machine and grinder, but things must have been set pretty well.Straight away we were getting coffee to a standard that we would happily pay for at a cafe.
Ofra
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Seems fair to me Rachel.... 8-) ;DOriginally posted by 6556545F525B70370 link=1240742933/35#35 date=1243423752Thanks guys! A few sink shots but it is a million times better than the old machine - completely beyond comparison. Were getting some really impressive espresso now.
It is an excellent (and selfish) present from my perspective - my husband has been making all the coffee for me!
Mal.
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Thanks guys! A few sink shots but it is a million times better than the old machine - completely beyond comparison. Were getting some really impressive espresso now.
It is an excellent (and selfish) present from my perspective - my husband has been making all the coffee for me!
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Kev;
Congratulation now is all about you play with the machine.
Regards
Renzo
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
After weighing everything up, last week we also selected an Isomac Tea and Mazzer Mini. Were extremely pleased with the results. The difference in the coffee between the budget machine and this one is dramatic.
I was expecting to have to play around while getting used to the machine and grinder, but things must have been set pretty well. Straight away we were getting coffee to a standard that we would happily pay for at a cafe.
A change of beans required grind settings to change, I guess as expected. Im looking forward to further improvements as we get to know the equipment better.
Kev
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Nice one Rachel, Im sure you will be making brilliant espresso on your new gear when it arrivesOriginally posted by 12212328252C07400 link=1240742933/30#30 date=1242950315Were about to sign on the dotted line for an Isomac Tea and a Mazzer mini-e
It will be my husbands 30th bday present 
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Wow! What a terrific pressie.... 8-)Originally posted by 1C2F2D262B22094E0 link=1240742933/30#30 date=1242950315Were about to sign on the dotted line for an Isomac Tea and a Mazzer mini-e
It will be my husbands 30th bday present 
Youre definitely a keeper RachelG
:P That will be an awesome setup for the both of you. Im the only one here who likes to play with real coffee so gets a bit lonely (coffee-wise) sometimes...
May the God Shots flow freely in your household [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Mal.
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Were about to sign on the dotted line for an Isomac Tea and a Mazzer mini-e
It will be my husbands 30th bday present
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Wow! Thats a long time for warm up! Ive found with the Reale that the boiler is up to temp and pressure in 5 mins (how long does 1.5 litres of water take to boil anyway? ;D) and that left on its own, the group is too hot to touch 10 mins later, or 2 mins later with 2-3 flushes through the group. Forgive my ignorance, but I imagine that the group temp should be around the ideal 90 degree extraction temperature?Originally posted by 646F51696762630E0 link=1240742933/12#12 date=1241442913I think you need a good 1.5 hrs+ before you get up to get the machine up to temp.
Ive found that I can have a great session from cold machine to boiler purge and machine off in 20 mins - just wondering what the effect of the extra hour or so for warm up will have?
Anyone feel to chip in - just interested!
Cheers!
DBC
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Hi all,
I would definitely not consider myself an expert, but I can say that I am extremely happy with my BZ07P. Like Chris mentioned, the electrically heated head heats up in 15 mins. If left there, it does run hot, but nothing a cooling flush cant fix. The key to this guy is not to overfill the basket - youll get water leaking all over the place if you do. But once you get it right, you get beautiful espresso - like I said, Im not expert, but I dont believe it compromises the quality of the espresso at all.
If you drink mostly milky coffees like me, I can certainly vouch for the 4-hole steam wand - its a beautiful monster! Steams your milk in less than 10 seconds, and once youve practiced enough, makes beautiful, silky smooth microfoam. I have to say cost me quite a few dollars in milk and lots of frustration at first, but now its worth every cent and every piece of hair I ripped out.
As for external finish - I just absolutely love the way it looks. Anyway, I have not used any of the other ones so maybe my opinion does not count. Still, love it to bits.
I got mine from Chris at Talk Coffee. Extremely informative, patient and very helpful - I know I am a difficult customer :-[, so he did well.
gavin.
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Re: <$2000 HX - Tea, Splendor, Expobar leva,BZ07 - decision time is here!
Just want to say thanks for the discussion. Its been helpful. We are also at the stage of making a decision about machine and grinder within the range discussed - and we live in Perth, so similar factors to RachelG and James.
This is a fair step up from our current setup, a basic discount store grade machine and coffee (fresh ground) from a good local supplier. I also work close to one of the better coffee places in Perth so at least Ive still had the benefit of great coffee
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Ive been doing a lot of reading and comparisons based on discussions, reviews etc. CoffeeSnobs has been great for this.
Kev
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