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  • #31
    Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

    There does not seem to be a lot of info around on the Cuadra so when I came across a thread on a German forum with pics of the internals I thought I may as well post a link on this thread, it may help armchair researchers doing there homework. Click Here

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    • #32
      Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

      i can only say that i have owned one for nearly 2 years and have had no issues in that time.i do not have any technical knowledge and can only comment on the coffee i make,which is consistant and enjoyable.
      my wife and i enjoy both the results and the looks of the machine

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      • #33
        Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

        I just went to look at one at Espresso Italia (site sponsor) - and theyre cheaper now.
        They were confident about the build quality, parts and serviceability.

        If there are no bad experiences, I might give it a go. Its replacing a Sunbeam EM6910 - so its gotta be more reliable, right?

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        • #34
          Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

          Originally posted by 7D7164644F737C757D100 link=1246415338/33#33 date=1275393488
          so its gotta be more reliable, right?
          It would need to be...

          I am going to call it as I saw it. When I evaluated the Diamond machine as a potential range candidate way back then, I rejected it as a hot running, poorly laid out, entry level Asian manufactured HX machine. In service, it would have been nasty and expensive to maintain in my opinion.

          We have a client who experienced terminal failures of three of these machines (purchased elsewhere) in a row. He spat the dummy, most probably lost his dough (Diamond machine as they were going under) and purchased a Giotto.

          I havent seen one since then, but it would want to have improved a whole heap to be of any competition to anything Italian or Spanish at the circa $2k mark. :-? Keep in mind that whats inside counts as well. Attilio hit the nail on the head a few posts up 

          So there it is....Thats my opinion.

          Chris

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          • #35
            Cuadra by La Nuova Era

            Hi Guys!!

            I have been reading this forum for a while and researching and I have finally decided on a Cuadra from Espresso Italia!

            I was originally going for an Isomac Millennium Cooltouch (new model) though I stumbled across the Cuadra while researching. Obviously the Cuadra being cheaper though almost the same quality as the Isomac I thought Id go for the Cuadra.

            Before I make my purchase I thought Id start up an account here and ask all of you very experienced coffee snobs your opinion. Ive searched the forum and came across this thread http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1246415338 which caused me a little grief, though I did notice the date is quite old when it was first started. My question here is: have the problems been fixed since the thread was posted? & Is the Millennium really better than the Cuadra and why?

            Thanks in advance

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            • #36
              Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

              Welcome Ristrett0,

              Seeing that you used the search function and found an identical thread, it would have been good if youd posted in it rather than creating more of the same...

              Threads merged :

              2mcm

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              • #37
                Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

                Originally posted by 653A22343F3438313132323A3639570 link=1246415338/35#35 date=1277726054
                Welcome Ristrett0,

                Seeing that you used the search function and found an identical thread, it would have been good if youd posted in it rather than creating more of the same...

                Threads merged :

                2mcm

                Sorry I started a new thread because I wanted to compare to the Millennium as well, but I didnt really make myself clear. :-/

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                • #38
                  Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

                  Originally posted by 6441574C444B4A250 link=1246415338/36#36 date=1277726701
                  Sorry I started a new thread because I wanted to compare to the Millennium as well, but I didnt really make myself clear.
                  One is an Italian HX machine with 1.2L boiler and circa 20kg. The other one is an Asian assembled ( :-/) 1.8L machine which weighs more like 14kg and has plastic sides and runs red hot (or at least it did in one I played with in Diamonds showroom)...

                  I have not seen inside the Millenium so cant comment on that, but was unimpressed with what I saw in the Diamond, which I classified as the 1st appliance HX machine I had seen. We refused to range it.

                  These are big decisions and you need to live with a machine every day. You want something which is well manufactured and user friendly. If you have to fight the machine for a cup, you will not be inclined to use it and you blows your dough.

                  I get to use a variety of machines every day and see inside them as well when we do service work- so I reckon I can make pretty fair comparisons, perhaps moreso than a bloke who saw a cheapy machine, purchased it and has managed to make a coffee or two with it. Of course hes happy, but what about in two years?  

                  At the less expensive end of our range, nothing in our range comes close to the build quality of the Diadema Junior Plus semi-auto. Good thing is that they dont break either.

                  My advice is to make sure that you buy the right machine, not neccessarily the cheapest and if that means waiting for a little while to accumulate some extra folding stuff, do it!

                  Also, find a dealer who can bench test your machine, set it correctly as required, assist with training and more importantly, repair your machine if something goes wrong. There are way too many mobs around interested in shifting boxes and grabbing cash these days. After sales support? Good luck... :

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                  • #39
                    Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

                    Thanks for the info so far guys. My budget is a big factor at this stage. I cant really afford a machine in the 2500 range. After speaking to a seller who sells both the Isomac and Cuadra, they said that the Isomac actually runs hotter than the Cuadra. So now Im totally confused.

                    I think Im going to have to go out and find a place to test in Sydney. But Im finding it difficult to find someone that has stocks the Cuadra in Sydney.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

                      Ciao Ristretto and welcome to CS.

                      I wasnt going to enter the discusison as it seems it concerns another site sponsor but now that you mention you are in Sydney.......

                      This Advice to CS members given freely & without any commercial interest intended:  

                      I continue to marvel at people buying equipment by mail order from all over the country when they have reputable equipment vendors in their own areas selling a goodly number of machines of various brands and models. Some of them CS sponsors......

                      From the point of view of reliability and good service long term, why are you looking at equipment that you say is not available in your area? What happens when you have a warrantable problem?  What happens after the period of guarantee has lapsed?  Dont you want, or find comfort in, the thought of buying locally and being able to access convenient local support for years to come?

                      Have you asked the importer if he has an agent to refer you to in Sydney?

                      Rather than saying you are finding it difficult to find a certain brand / model in your local area ask rather, what good name brands and models are already available in your local area covering a good range of purchase prices, and with already established local support.  It doesnt have to be any more difficult than necessary.

                      Hope this helps.

                      Regardz,
                      Attilio
                      very first CS site sponsor.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

                        Originally posted by 7E4A5D4B50677B575E5E5D5D380 link=1246415338/39#39 date=1277776777
                        Ciao Ristretto and welcome to CS.

                        I wasnt going to enter the discusison as it seems it concerns another site sponsor but now that you mention you are in Sydney.......

                        Advice freely given without any commercial interest:  

                        I continue to marvel at people buying equipment by mail order from all over the country when they have reputable equipment vendors in their own areas selling a goodly number of machines of various brands and models. Some of them CS sponsors......

                        From the point of view of reliability and good service long term, why are you looking at equipment that you say is not available in your area? What happens when you have a warrantable problem?  What happens after the period of guarantee has lapsed?  Dont you want, or find comfort in, the thought of buying locally and being able to access convenient local support for years to come?

                        Haave you asked the importer if he has an agent to refer you to in Sydney?

                        Rather than saying you are finding it difficult to find a certain brand / model in your local area ask rather, what good name brands and models are already available in your local area covering a good range of purchase prices, and with already established local support.  It doesnt have to be any more difficult than necessary.

                        Hope this helps.

                        Regardz,
                        Attilio
                        very first CS site sponsor.
                        Yes I have asked if there is a Sydney rep for the vendor and there is for both service and warranty. And everytime I do a search for the cuadra I cant find a Sydney based vendor. This is why I posted what I posted. Thanks

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                        • #42
                          Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

                          Another point, that many dont think about is

                          People move due to various factors
                          Sometimes to the next suburb
                          Sometimes to the next town or city
                          Sometimes to another state

                          Originally posted by 605443554E79654940404343260 link=1246415338/39#39 date=1277776777
                          From the point of view of reliability and good service long term, why are you looking at equipment that you say is not available in your area? What happens when you have a warrantable problem?What happens after the period of guarantee has lapsed?Dont you want, or find comfort in, the thought of buying locally and being able to access convenient local support for years to come?

                          Have you asked the importer if he has an agent to refer you to in Sydney?

                          Rather than saying you are finding it difficult to find a certain brand / model in your local area ask rather, what good name brands and models are already available in your local area covering a good range of purchase prices, and with already established local support.It doesnt have to be any more difficult than necessary.
                          Its good to be able to have reliable parts / service close by no mater where you live or move to

                          KK

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                          • #43
                            Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

                            Hi guys,

                            The La Nuova Era (Cuadra) Authorized service agent in Sydney is:

                            ESPRESSO CONNECT
                            9 KESLO STREET
                            BURWOOD HEIGHTS 2136 NSW
                            PHONE: 02 9817 8000

                            Cheers

                            Damiano from Espresso Italia

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                            • #44
                              Re: Diamond Italia/La Nuova Era Cuadra

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