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Timer use for Giotto / Diadema - Will it cause circuit board failure?
Re: Timer use for Giotto / Diadema - Will it cause circuit board failure?
An update - Ill be trying an HPM timer (from Bunnings). It is digital and be set to turn on and off on differnt times on different days. Ill take the risk on the board.....
Re: Timer use for Giotto / Diadema - Will it cause circuit board failure?
Hi Guys, Girls
Dont know who the agent was and dont care but that really makes me upset to here that, the Guys from BFC(manufactures of the Diadema) in Italy are very nice people and very accommodating when it comes to warranty issues. Dont want it to sound like I am trying to get more work through bad mouthing someone else but if anyone else finds themselves in this situation please give us a call and well see if we can help you.
Re: Timer use for Giotto / Diadema - Will it cause circuit board failure?
Originally posted by 6944404C412D0 link=1269218094/15#15 date=1269419339
Spot on in above posts AM..... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Mal.
Ya but notice... Fingers in the ears.. The noise I cant stand the noise.
NOTE:
The issues that can trap.
1: Specifications:
Voltage: 220-240VAC 50Hz - Max Load continuous: 10A, 2400W with 30 Amp Internal Switching Contacts
2: Specifications: Easily control any 240V mains appliance rated up to 10A
Voltage: 220-240VAC 50Hz - Max Load 10A , 2400W
Now item two on closer inspection, is only rated at load surge of 10A and 1A continuous. Thus one can get caught... If it is not clearly stated and only implied... Assumptions will get ya every time.
Re: Timer use for Giotto / Diadema - Will it cause circuit board failure?
Originally posted by 35362525323B570 link=1269218094/11#11 date=1269383988
I have a filtered power board connected and use a timer on my Giotto. I figured the surge protection and filtered power was a bit of piece of mind for a $3000 machine. We have a lot of brown outs and black outs where I am.
Yep... Just remember... They are not fool proof and very few devices can protect from a direct lighting strike.. The electrons have a great need to cross significant gaps and go around and over protection.
Now if it is other devices including stereos etc that are introducing noise etc... These filters do a good job of cutting much of the crap out. But again... It really only impacts on sensitive electronics..
Re: Timer use for Giotto / Diadema - Will it cause circuit board failure?
I have a filtered power board connected and use a timer on my Giotto. I figured the surge protection and filtered power was a bit of piece of mind for a $3000 machine. We have a lot of brown outs and black outs where I am.
Re: Timer use for Giotto / Diadema - Will it cause circuit board failure?
Originally posted by 49565C4D505E525A4D3F0 link=1269218094/9#9 date=1269374309
Clipped from a USA distributors blurb for a different machine.
Mostly, for the xxxxxxxxxx line, the defects were the heating elements that stopped functioning due to the customers lack of surge suppression. This is common problem on many espresso machines as the filament inside the heating element is very susceptible - even to the smallest surges. therefore, we always recommend acquiring a surge suppressor, and even more so when placing a timer on the espresso machine. This one we have been able to figure out.
Make of it what you want
Good find....
I am sure Mal might jump in here as well.... While some things can be sensitive, a light element is just a heating element....heating elements are a short length an interesting material.
I am sorry.. But to me; the statement above as highlighted; is less than correct.... And smacks of a Marketing exercise...
Control boards and some electronics can be sensitive to surges.. But if ya have a basic machine that is not controlled by fancy electronics... Then the chance of an element going OPEN cct on a surge is rare....
If it shorts to the outer sheathing etc then that is a manufacturers fault.
Secondly if it was that common; elements would be the number one seller as just turning the main switch on, generates surges.
[edit]
Found this.. as another explanation that adds some extra context...
As more and more appliances have become “smarter” they include chips vulnerable to surges. Transients are the enemy of these tiny wonders.
Whereas a hair dryer already produces heat, these spikes are mere "pebbles" in the torrent of electrical “boulders” that normally course through the heating element.[/edit]
Re: Timer use for Giotto / Diadema - Will it cause circuit board failure?
Clipped from a USA distributors blurb for a different machine.
Mostly, for the xxxxxxxxxx line, the defects were the heating elements that stopped functioning due to the customers lack of surge suppression. This is common problem on many espresso machines as the filament inside the heating element is very susceptible - even to the smallest surges. therefore, we always recommend acquiring a surge suppressor, and even more so when placing a timer on the espresso machine. This one we have been able to figure out.
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