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  • Dimal
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    Hi again Geoff....

    You dont need a Scace Device you know. If you own a CS Digital Multimeter or something similar with a Temperature capability, and a bead form of the Type K T/couple, youre cooking with gas...

    Just prepare an espresso shot in the normal way and as you are about to lock in the Group Handle, feed the tip of the T/couple over the lip of the basket so that the bead is resting equidistant between the centre of the puck and its circumference, holding it in place while you lock the GH in firmly. The insulation on these T/couples is very tough and can withstand many, many uses in this way.

    If you have a CS DMM, then you could also avail yourself of the CS Monitoring Software that goes with it and chart the progress of the brew temperature profile during the pour. Otherwise, you will just need to observe and manually record. Either way, this method replicates perfectly what is required, since you are pulling an actual espresso shot, not simulating it and it is so simple and inexpensive to do.

    Worth a try mate, Ive been doing it this way for quite a few years now and I still use the original T/couple I started out with. All the best....

    Mal.

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  • Cooper69S
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    Originally posted by 25080C000D610 link=1274795703/19#19 date=1275467386
    Do you know how the Group Temperature correlates with the actual Brew Water Temperature to the top of the coffee puck?

    Mal.
    Gday Mal
    there are a few graphs around on the web (plus a few that Eric gave me when I bought the thermometer from him) that show the puck temp is usually lower than the thermometer temp, but the difference isnt constant. It depends on things like the amount of time between stopping the cooling flush and starting the shot.  Im keen to give it a run with a scace some time to check it properly.
    Geoff

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  • Dimal
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    Re: Isomac Tea II or older Isomac Mondiale?

    Gday Geoff....

    Do you know how the Group Temperature correlates with the actual Brew Water Temperature to the top of the coffee puck?

    Mal.

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  • Cooper69S
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    Gday BR
    congrats on the purchase - the Mondiale is certainly a fancy looking machine. As was alluded to further up in the thread, Ive had some issues with mine, mainly relating to temperature. Having never played with another Mondiale, or any other HX machine for that matter, I could never be sure if my machine was/is faulty or if its just how it was designed or even if the problems were all in my imagination??

    Mine usually needs 25 - 30 seconds cooling flush to bring it down to the right temp before pulling shots. For at least the first 15 seconds of the flush the temperature is at or above 99 degrees C according to the grouphead thermometer I bought.
    I think my machine is the exception to the rule though, as all the other CS Mondiale owners seem to say that they never require more than a quick flush and even then only if its been idling for hours... apart from that issue, the machine gives excellent results.

    Id be interested to know how your machines set up - ie boiler pressure & group pressure, and how long (if at all) you need to run a cooling flush before its ready to go.
    all the best with it
    Geoff

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  • jkarlis
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    Originally posted by 3D3A3E31002D303E2C2B3631385F0 link=1274795703/16#16 date=1275290075
    There was an optional aluminum handle for it but that was being charged out at an extra $120. I wasnt too concerned with getting it as I actually want to invest in a bottomless portafilter instead.
    Very sensible decision

    Originally posted by 3D3A3E31002D303E2C2B3631385F0 link=1274795703/16#16 date=1275290075
    In regards to the grinder, theres a Mini Mazzer lurking over in another corner.
    Thats good to know, I was worried you may be been packing preground stupidmarket coffee into your filter

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  • bean_roasting
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    @CJ.

    Thanks.

    There was an optional aluminum handle for it but that was being charged out at an extra $120. I wasnt too concerned with getting it as I actually want to invest in a bottomless portafilter instead.

    In regards to the grinder, theres a Mini Mazzer lurking over in another corner.

    @Supreme Roasters
    Thanks for the invite. Ill definitely take you up on that as I will be back (even if it only be for just a visit  ) Cant pass up a Yatala pie AND great coffee! ;D

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  • jkarlis
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    Congratulations BR that’s a nice looking machine. Is it the Mondiale that has the optional aluminium handle? I hope there’s a grinder hiding somewhere in that kitchen…

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  • bean_roasting
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    Morgz,

    After about 5 days of reasonable usage (theres only so much coffee you can drink  ) I can seriously say Im in love (or lust). The wife is now thinking she may have made a mistake as shes found when talking to me, Im staring over her shoulder at the Mondiale.

    It took a few attempts but my shot pouring is back to almost consistent par with the Gaggia and Ive managed a few better which shows there is potential for improvement which is what I wanted. When you land those good ones it definitely justifies the purchase. Now, if I could just do it consistently...

    Milk texturing is off the scale in comparison to the Baby Gaggia. 300mL  done in around 25s (have to get a stopwatch, so thats a guesstimate). Had to pull out the old milk thermometer to relearn the temp timings as it is so quick.

    The Mondiale is a beautiful machine to look at and certainly works as "kitchen bling". The lever action switches for the steaming and hot water wands I like (mind you I had gotten used to a shifting spanner working as a replacement for the broken steam knob on my Baby Gaggia ;D). Time to warm up; I usually give it half an hour in the morning as I get ready for work. I havent really worked out the minimum period yet. Some people complain that the drip tray is too small, but it is designed to be plumbed in (which I am aiming to do in the future) and I find the size actually works for me without an issue. The only real complaint is probably the water tank. Its a bit crude, food grade plastic that seems to have been slightly malformed in the production process to have a slight bow in it which causes it to stick when trying to remove from the Mondiale. Not a real major problem and easily replaced if it does end up annoying me.

    Overall, with my very short ownership, Im very happy so far with the investment, and I look forward to improving my skills with what appears to be a quality HX machine.

    Ive included a couple of photos of the Mondiale in-situ in the kitchen.



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  • Koffee_Kosmo
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    Originally posted by 545357586944595745425F5851360 link=1274795703/10#10 date=1274866535
    (its the milk texturing that has me the most concerned, going from 1 minute + to texture and a bit of time to fool around to one thatll turn your milk from cold cow juice to cooked yoghurt in the matter of 10 secs).
    Use the KK method
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1220959662

    Originally posted by 545357586944595745425F5851360 link=1274795703/10#10 date=1274866535
    Anyway, wish me luck, here I go...
    No luck needed just a little practice in the V6 and you will driving like a pro

    KK

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  • Morgz
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    Originally posted by 545357586944595745425F5851360 link=1274795703/10#10 date=1274866535
    Anyway, wish me luck, here I go...
    I am also considering a La Mondiale. Any early impressions? Tips for beginners?

    Cheers,
    Morgz.

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  • SupremeRoasters
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    Congrats on the decision made for you.

    If you visit Brisbane again in the future (you know you will..you will always head north again!) Feel free to drop by and have a coffee.

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  • bean_roasting
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    Well the decision has been made for me. I get home and the wife has already gone out and purchased the Mondiale so I have it waiting at home sitting on the bench.

    Definitely not unhappy about that Now, just have to figure out how to use it. 7 years with a Baby Gaggia, going to be a bit of a change and the user manual is a bit light on. Years of reading these forums and dreaming of the day I held something like this in my hands youd think Id be able to step straight up to it, but no, research, research, research before I even turn it on ;D

    I think the wife may have to wait a bit before her morning coffee is at least up to par with what I was pulling on the Gaggia (its the milk texturing that has me the most concerned, going from 1 minute + to texture and a bit of time to fool around to one thatll turn your milk from cold cow juice to cooked yoghurt in the matter of 10 secs).

    Anyway, wish me luck, here I go...

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  • jkarlis
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    OK Im pretty sure I know who the other guys are.
    Does sound like a tempting deal although I cant help with any of the questions you posed in the OP.

    I agree that being made to move to Adelaide deserve some type of compensation

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  • bean_roasting
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    Yes I have, thanks Caffeine_Junky. Very nice!

    Basil there was suggesting the Isomac Zaffira and I was preferably going to go with a Tea II through them as I wanted an HX until I raced out to get some last minute beans last night (The other guys happen to be a lot closer to home ) and saw this discounted special (with only 2 left). Hence I ended up in an emergency dilemma.

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  • jkarlis
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    BR have you paid a visit to Coffee Craft yet? If not Id definitely recommend it.

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