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  • #16
    Re: Piazza DOro Piston/Leone CMA manufactured 1 group machine

    PS. Last service a Coffee repair place did for a small café was en excess of $600 to inspect and change group seals and shower screens.

    ;D
    excess of $600..........for screens and seals.....I dont think so and if they did pay then they are stupid!

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    • #17
      Re: Piazza DOro Piston/Leone CMA manufactured 1 group machine

      Originally posted by 242C2C2822430 link=1275526828/15#15 date=1277385279
      PS. Last service a Coffee repair place did for a small café was en excess of $600 to inspect and change group seals and shower screens.

      ;D
      excess of $600..........for screens and seals.....I dont think so and if they did pay then they are stupid!
      Yes they did charge $600 and like many; the final cost is only after the job has been done and teh invoice is sent and or handed over.....

      Your obviously not dealing with any contractors or trade people if you think that $600 is a joke..

      1: Service on site... (Travel time)

      2: Parts (Cost and mark up)

      3: Labour and so called final testing..


      So If you can do on site (van ) and parts (Warehouse to cover all models and types) and labour (skilled) for significantly less and pay the service person a wage (something that keep him turning up)... Lots of people would be happy to talk to you...

      If not then....

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      • #18
        Re: Piazza DOro Piston/Leone CMA manufactured 1 group machine

        Originally posted by 4F60696B7C436F606F696B636B607A0E0 link=1275526828/16#16 date=1277425562
        Your obviously not dealing with any contractors or trade people if you think that $600 is a joke..
        Mornin AM, most tradesmen, particularly sparkys and plumbers will charge whatever they can get away with >
        We have half a dozen or so in our town, most drive bloody great sign written Mercedes vans and the meter starts ticking the moment they pick up the phone to speak to you, minimum call out fee $100 > on the other hand I use an excellent electrician, no call out fee, in fact will drop in on the way past and offer advice and even do small jobs @ no charge, very reasonable rates and needless to say hes flat out.
        Same deal with plumber.

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        • #19
          Re: Piazza DOro Piston/Leone CMA manufactured 1 group machine

          Yep...

          Originally posted by 506C657D68090 link=1275526828/17#17 date=1277426709
          Mornin AM, most tradesmen, particularly sparkys and plumbers will charge whatever they can get away with  
          We have half a dozen or so in our town, most drive bloody great sign written Mercedes vans and the meter starts ticking the moment they pick up the phone to speak to you, minimum call out fee $100  
          Issue for some up here is that; like a limited supply of good Coffee training (See other rants)  , there are only a few providers of Coffee Service Maintenance available..

          They have a interesting monopoly and as there are few if any other options...

          **** Well; guess what happens when looking for on site service or a timely service due to parts availability..

          Unless you have a Fully paid up contract...  A repair can take days to weeks..

          PS.  Another reason why Machines and Roasted beans are lumped together..  The shop owner does not have to think about it...

          Even the big sponsors and others suppliers up here, contract the service of equipment out... Be it Commercial and or the Smaller units they sell......

          Not aware on any that have a substantial service crew and loan equipment.. And if they do; it does not come cheep.

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          • #20
            Re: Piazza DOro Piston/Leone CMA manufactured 1 group machine

            Originally posted by 292121252F4E0 link=1275526828/15#15 date=1277385279
            PS. Last service a Coffee repair place did for a small café was en excess of $600 to inspect and change group seals and shower screens.

            ;D
            excess of $600..........for screens and seals.....I dont think so and if they did pay then they are stupid!
            Perhaps there was another reply to the thread somewhere above and then it was deleted....because not sure what this is replying to or what it means.

            Does it mean someone spent half an hour on site, replacing only a couple of showers and group seals and charged $600.00....Or does it mean someone spent considerable time on site completing various tasks requiring mostly the input of "time spent" & expertise rather than actual replacement of spare parts, and charged $600.00?

            None of the circumstances have been described, in any case it is well known that people can write whatever they like in internet forums and apparently its always the truth!

            And of course lets not discount, that for every paid job a professional tradesman ever did for a client, there is a very high number of complimentary jobs and pieces of advice that were freely given.

            Cryptic anonymous posts are not helpful particularly when it seems they have been posted to try to discredit espresso machine rerpairers in general, and present a case that all and sundry unqualified people should be sticking screwdrivers into black holes in coffee machines looking to make contact with 240 volts and or take work from legitimate espresso machine tradesmen who like everyone else, have every right to ply their trade without interference from the sidelines.

            Regardz to all,
            Attilio
            very first CS site sponsor




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            • #21
              Re: Piazza DOro Piston/Leone CMA manufactured 1 group machine

              Originally posted by 754156405B6C705C55555656330 link=1275526828/19#19 date=1277433131
              Perhaps there was another reply to the thread somewhere above and then it was deleted....because not sure what this is replying to or what it means.
              Maybe a one post Troll :-? Joined yesterday one fairly off topic posting???

              Not to mention travel time to and from location X to this machine or any other multitude of work that may or not have been done? Down in my part of the world until recently most Coffee machine service work was done with a 2 1/2 hour drive before they got here so someone has to pay for at least some of that even if it gets shared around several machines service calls.

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              • #22
                Re: Piazza DOro Piston/Leone CMA manufactured 1 group machine

                PS. Last service a Coffee repair place did for a small café was en excess of $600 to inspect and change group seals and shower screens.

                No cleaning/ no temp or pressure checks ... Nothing else and makes it hard for the owner to validate..


                These are your words AM in reply #12. (attillio & OlSmokey?)

                Also reply #16 (guesstimates? being generous)

                1: Service on site... (Travel time) OK$200

                2: Parts (Cost and mark up) $20 screens and seals

                3: Labour and so called final testing.. $100 hr for 20min work?

                still way below $600?

                My point, no one should be charged $600 to only have the screens and seals changed on their machine.
                If you think charging that much is ok...then we agree to disagree.

                Attilio, I am definitely not being cryptic and am not discrediting coffee technicians..They are very important people!

                ps Im not a troll im just new here.



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