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Originally posted by 1834342B3E296D62085B0 link=1279947620/21#21 date=1308535071just have to accept that were all different I suppose.
Thats a defeatist attitude >
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no just took a long time to reach a decision I think... there was a post from the same username (same person?) on the whirlpool forums a couple of months ago still asking for opinions on that Saeco machine, and then yesterday this...Originally posted by 04203A2A2128490 link=1279947620/17#17 date=1307578028didnt realise; i suppose his saeco is broken by now lol
Just bought myself a DeLonghi Citiz and Milk Nespresso Coffee Machinesometimes (not specifically referring to this thread) the advice given to people who ask about superautos is a bit harsh especially to someone who obviously hasnt done much research into the alternatives. encouragement to try a good machine, instead of criticism/ridicule for considering a superauto (which is sometimes the response we give) would, I belive, be much more effective. although even then it doesnt always work - I tried my best and failed to convince my brother that he could be happier with a good manual machine. Instead he bought a Nespresso and loves it - just have to accept that were all different I suppose.Originally posted by 04203A2A2128490 link=1279947620/15#15 date=1307571964If he doesnt want to take advice
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Steady on mate... :POriginally posted by 0F203B2C39263E2C3B490 link=1279947620/20#20 date=1308020683I would expect an engineer to have poor grammar skills

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I would expect an engineer to have poor grammar skills
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Look all Im saying is that for what Im looking for in a cup of coffee is being better met by the machine I bought than most of the coffee shops Ive visited. To say that is false praise is to say that I am wrong in liking the colour green because you like the colour red. Of the coffee experience thing I spent 8 days on a P&O cruise and disliked every coffee I had from the on-board baristas, they just didnt get it, do equation is much more complex than you give it credit for.Originally posted by 71424D475A7C640D230 link=1279947620/14#14 date=1307558745It is said that a superauto cannot make espresso as good as can be made with other types of espresso machines, but to say that it can make better espresso than most coffee shops is to damn it with feigned praise.Originally posted by 6879606C750D0 link=1279947620/13#13 date=1307553272Others here say that an auto will never make coffee as nice as at a coffee shop but I have had coffee at a couple of hundred coffee shops in Melbourne and about 10 in Sydney, and Ive only found 2 that make coffee better than the Xelsis....
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didnt realise; i suppose his saeco is broken by now lol
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This thread and most of the posts are almost a year old. Might be time to let it go.Originally posted by 61455F4F444D2C0 link=1279947620/15#15 date=1307571964why would you all bother posting lengthy replies?
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why did you even bother asking any questions? And why would you all bother posting lengthy replies? If he doesnt want to take advice, let him waste his 2.5k on a machine that is essentially identical to the barvista, just auto, that will die in a year or two and make barely mediocre coffee.
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It is said that a superauto cannot make espresso as good as can be made with other types of espresso machines, but to say that it can make better espresso than most coffee shops is to damn it with feigned praise.Originally posted by 6879606C750D0 link=1279947620/13#13 date=1307553272Others here say that an auto will never make coffee as nice as at a coffee shop but I have had coffee at a couple of hundred coffee shops in Melbourne and about 10 in Sydney, and Ive only found 2 that make coffee better than the Xelsis....
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I bought one because a cheaper Saeco we had at work made 60,000 cups of coffee without a problem. Its much quieter than our old DeLonghi which never missed a beat in 4 years, and the coffee tastes better. Others here say that an auto will never make coffee as nice as at a coffee shop but I have had coffee at a couple of hundred coffee shops in Melbourne and about 10 in Sydney, and Ive only found 2 that make coffee better than the Xelsis, so what constitutes a good cup of coffee must be a fairly subjective thing. Having had this Xelsis now for 2 weeks Id say it makes about 1/5th the noise of our old DeLonghi. Im an Engineer, and there are a few aspects of the design that are flawed and I would do different if I was designing one, but they arent show stoppers.Originally posted by 752928781D0 link=1279947620/0#0 date=1279947620Is a Saeco Xelsis any good?? I can get one for $2500 ($1000 above my budget). If it is really really good, I dont mind spending move if it lasts longer.
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The noise comes from the vibe pumps in these coffee machines.Originally posted by 510D0C5C390 link=1279947620/10#10 date=1280042105Im 50/50 with xelsis and Cuadra by La Nuova Era.
Both of these suckers are going to be just as noisy as the thing you have give or take a very little. Because they both have same type of noisy vibe pumps inside them. The built in grinder on the Saeco is not silent by a long shot.
If you are going to chase good coffee the pump noise is going to pale into insignificance if you buy a decent grinder. This will leave you with the only option of a hand grinder which you could use whilst covered by blankets perhaps under the cushions of your sofa ;D
Sorry...joke. ;D
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You know that the Cuadra is a HX machineOriginally posted by 78242575100 link=1279947620/10#10 date=1280042105Im 50/50 with xelsis and Cuadra by La Nuova Era.
The vibe pump is loud not just on this machine but almost all vibe pump machines
It tends to sound louder in a room that echos (e.g. a kitchen)
A plumbed in machine is 85% quieter
KK
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Im 50/50 with xelsis and Cuadra by La Nuova Era.
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Originally posted by 48141545200 link=1279947620/7#7 date=1280031153The main reason is that it is very silent (compared to the Breville) and I cant find any other coffee machine that are that silent (unless u count instant).
The most economical form of coffee making is
The Greek/Turkish method
Cost less than $30 including coffee
It also covers your concern of noise as its whisper quiet
Takes mere minutes to make, consume & clean up
And I can train you the : How 2s" right here ;D
KK
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