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  • Isomac Zaffiro question.

    Hi,

    I was just wondering how long after you steam milk is the Isomac Zaffiro ready to pull shots again. I am referring to the dual purpose boiler. Sorry about the simplicity of this question but I have not been able to find an answer on google.

    Thanks.

  • #2
    Originally posted by FineGrind View Post
    Hi,

    I was just wondering how long after you steam milk is the Isomac Zaffiro ready to pull shots again. I am referring to the dual purpose boiler. Sorry about the simplicity of this question but I have not been able to find an answer on google.

    Thanks.
    Welcome Fine Grind,

    You appear to have also posted exactly the same question in another thread....and got an answer. Generally advisable to avoid multiple postings.
    Cheers
    BOSW.

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    • #3
      I was hoping for a more informed answer in the higher end part of the forum as I was lead to believe that there would be a significant wait time and not just a simple flush. Which in my basic understanding is why you cannot steam the milk first.

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      • #4
        The purpose of the flush (after steaming) is to bring the temperature back down by pulling in cold water from the tank. The other method is to wait a few minutes for the machine to cool down by itself.

        You only have one boiler in your machine. It operates heats the water at a higher temperature when steam is required (for example 120 degrees), and at a lower temperature when espresso is required (eg 92 degrees).

        When using a single boiler, I prefer to steam first and brew second. If you brew first and steam second, your espresso shot will be sitting there and getting cold as the machine takes its time to heat up. It's far quicker to lower the boiler temperature through a flush.

        Hope that's what you're after

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        • #5
          Thank you that helps.

          Just another quick question that I really need to ask. Do I get a 57 or 58 mm tamper for the Isomac Zaffiro?

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          • #6
            58mm.

            I got 58.5 and it was even better. YMMV

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            • #7
              Sorry I am totally new to the game. Please forgive me.

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              • #8
                Umm... I just found a place where I can get a reg barber tamper that actually is 58.5! So were you joking about 58.5 or not. If not I don't understand why you typed ymmv.

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                • #9
                  So I would like to know if I should buy a 58mm or 58.5 mm tamper as I am about to purchase a Reg Barber. I want to get this right as I only want to purchase the one tamper.

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                  • #10
                    It really depends on the size of your basket. These vary slightly with each machine, and it would be very hard for anyone to tell you which one to get.

                    If you've got access to a digital caliper, make sure the inside diameter of your basket is slightly bigger than the diameter of the tamper. Don't buy the 58.5mm tamp if your basket is 58.5mm as it will jam up.

                    Alternatively, just bring your basket to the shop and make sure it fits to your liking.

                    edit: Just to make things more confusing, RB's interpretation of 58.5mm may not be the same as yours. I've bought a 58.5mm tamp in the past and when I measured it using my own equipment (mainly out of curiosity), it came up as 58.4mm. The good news is that I actually brought my basket into the store and tested everything before my purchase so I was a happy chappy.
                    Last edited by specialpants; 23 July 2012, 10:04 AM. Reason: extra info

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                    • #11
                      ymmv = your mileage may vary, meaning though it worked for me, you might find that it isn't going to work for you.

                      My Zaffiro came with a 58mm tamper, that didn't fit any of my 58mm baskets, and I bought four more to see what was up. I recently bought a 58mm Bogav, and found the fit to be much more precise.

                      The boiler takes about 15 minutes to cool down if you don't touch it. There's a lot of metal that gets pretty hot when the boiler gets up to steam temp, so unless you flush all the steam-water out, and run cool water through the head, you're going to burn your next shot.

                      I've only found it to be a problem when you have guests, if it's just me, by the time I've finished my cup and are ready for another one, it's had time to cool down anyway.

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                      • #12
                        Lol I thought Benandfaith was saying you make me vomit (ymmv) and I was offended, not being able to understand why he would say that! Not knowing what ymmv meant I looked it up on the computer and that's what it told me it meant. I thought maybe my question was too simple and he was annoyed or something. I am glad bmawebb cleared that up for me.

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                        • #13
                          Hi FineGrind! Sorry that came across so wrong! I definitely meant Your Mileage May Vary NOT You Make Me Vomit!! That's the thing with these darned internet abbreviations... haha. I'm certainly not annoyed and am keen to help answer your questions on the Zaffiro. Before I purchased all my different machines I always had lots to ask, so am keen to pass on the goodwill I myself have received.

                          I had the Zaffiro for about 1.5 years before my (final!) upgrade to the Diadema, so I did get to know it pretty well. So feel free to ask away without fear of me vomitting!

                          As for tamper, I concur with what has been said above. Best thing you can do is bring in the basket you will be using and match it to the tamper you want to buy. For me, I have both a 58mm and a 58.5 and that covers my bases for the 4 or so double baskets I have. I have sine purchased a Espresso Parts double basket (from Talk Coffee) and have found that due to the design of the holes in the basket, the use of either tamper makes little to no difference to the end product. I like the feel of my 58mm Coffeelabs tamper, so that's what I'm using for now!

                          I had written in your other post that it took at least 5min to cool down if you do nothing... sounds like bmawebb has actually checked it and it's closer to 15min. Take his word for it for mine!

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                          • #14
                            Okay so I have just found out from a company that 58.2mm is ideal for the Isomac Zaffiro. Now all I need is as many posts as I can get telling me which base shape people prefer (convex or flat) so that I can decide based on popularity. So please post your preferences.

                            Thanks.

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                            • #15
                              I have another question about the isomac zaffiro. To do a back flush do I need to buy another basket with no holes in it? If so what size do I get, 58mm? It doesn't seem to come with one.

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