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  • KirstenM
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    Hello, I have just upgraded to a Lelit PL60 from my 6 yr old Rancilio silvia.
    Aside from the dog, my silvia was the most reliable and trouble free thing in the house. Loved me unconditionally and never skipped a beat. But the time came for an upgrade and i am even happier with the Lelit, it is making a truly awesome coffee.
    Now trying to rehome the silvia as I feel baaaaad after it was so good to me

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  • jasaretta
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    Originally posted by somerset View Post
    Please tell us how you go with the ECM!
    The ECM Technika Profi just arrived from from the wonderful people at DiBartoli.

    This machine is beautiful to look at and a pleasure to use.

    Can't recommend it highly enough.

    Quiet. Functional. Craftsmanship is phenomenal. Little things like the weight of the grips, the quality of the steam and water pipes, the feel of all 3 levers.

    And when I made coffee this morning it didn't wake my wife!

    I can't recommend the guys at DiBartoli enough. Ofra and Renzo were great.

    Anyone have specific questions I am more than happy to try and answer them!

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  • somerset
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    Please tell us how you go with the ECM!

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  • jasaretta
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    No I didn't. That was the ridiculous quote. But I just reached the end of my tether with the aching always failing. ECM Technika Profi arrived today :-)

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  • TC
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    Originally posted by jasaretta View Post
    My only opinion is on expobar. I bought the first brewtus and when it's been working its been great. But so far I have probably spent $1300 on repairs. And the most recent at $850 for a new controller and the second heating element has pushed me to ditch it for a new machine.
    Hooley dooley!

    If you paid $850 for that work, you were charged and then charged again.

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  • jasaretta
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    My only opinion is on expobar. I bought the first brewtus and when it's been working its been great. But so far I have probably spent $1300 on repairs. And the most recent at $850 for a new controller and the second heating element has pushed me to ditch it for a new machine.

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  • Morgz
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    I have two dual boiler machines (Alex Duetto 2 & VBM) and have not had any problem with either of them; both should last a lifetime with proper care. These machines are worthy of your consideration although they don't fit into the 'pointy end' category price wise. If you think you may be prone to upgrading then they're worth a look, especially if you're likely to want to make a number of coffees back to back.

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  • Pants
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    Thanks Charlie. Is there anything closer to Bowen Hills, or in the Western Suburbs?

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  • Breno
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    I'm in the same boat as you CremaMyPants as alluded to in my post in the "I'm new here" thread. Brisbane is slim pickings for quality machine suppliers who have access to a wide variety so you can physically touch, try and ogle before you buy. Maybe a group buy to Brisbane is called for lol. Help us poor Queenslanders out.

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  • JetBlack_Espresso
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    Neli Coffee in Clontarf have the PL60 V2 and some Heat Exchanger machines on display (and demo I think)

    charlie

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  • Pants
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    Originally posted by Yelta View Post
    Something to contemplate with twin boiler machines is the fact that you have two boilers to maintain along with the extra plumbing and wiring, rightly or wrongly this became an important consideration when I was in the market for a new machine.

    Twin boilers sounded like a great idea until I thought it through and realised that with the extra boiler came extra complexity along with extra things to go wrong.

    I settled on a good quality single boiler machine and have not regretted it.
    Im thinking this is a good reason to go with the HX setup? I think electricity consumption would be about the same with a dual boiler (with both turned on) and a HX machine...?

    I'd like to go into a shop and look at some of these machines. I work at Bowen Hills, Brisbane QLD so if anyone can recommend someone I'd really appreciate it because my wallets getting heavy...

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  • Pants
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    Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Hello Crema,

    If you are looking for simultaneous shot and steam, good heat exchanger machines will also deliver this. Ignore the old cooling flush discussions around the place. This does not apply with well designed and calibrated machines so there may be some other excellent candidates to be considered on your short-list.

    With respect to your choices: Both are very good machines. The Expobar has larger boilers and therefore more capacity than the Lelit. It's also twice the weight!

    That said, I have just had the Lelit at home for a few weeks while we waited for our new kitchen bench to be drilled for my usual plumbed in machine. We had some brilliant shots.

    My advice in matters such as this is to choose the one you like rather than purchase on price alone. It's your espresso partner and you will be looking at it every day. You might as well choose one which is also pleasing to the eye!

    Cheers

    Chris
    This led me to read about how HX machines work Some quick research and I think it was love at first sight when I come across the Rocket Giotto Evoluzione Version 2. I especially like the option to plumb it in. I also noticed the Expobar Office Leva. Are these examples of a good HX machines you were referring to?

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  • Pants
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    Originally posted by coffeechris View Post
    Hi Crema,

    I can only add this. I have had a few machines in my time which have each been a step of from the one before. I owned those machines for a short time before becoming unsatisfied with them resulting in yet another upgrade. Until i got myself the Expobar Minore IV and also paired it with the K3 grinder. its been well over 2 years and im still happy. Yes there are many other machines which look nicer and arguably preform better however for my needs im more than happy with what i have. I look back and it wasnt a cheap upgrade but it may play a factor in why i havent needed to upgrade since.

    Good luck with finding a machine

    Good to know. I'm aiming to be in your situation where I buy wisely and once so it lasts me a while...

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  • Pants
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    Originally posted by bjjoh3 View Post
    Hi,

    No dramas. I would only worry about the Nespresso machine a little bit... admittedly we all had to get started somehow.

    On the machine side of things I want to point out that you need the machine AND the grinder. You have mentioned two decent grinders so you are on the right track. In terms of the equipment you get it depends on a) why you are getting it (presumably to make great espresso) and b) budget. Any of those machines and grinder combinations would make great coffee so I suggest the Rancilio Silvia/Compact K3 Push combination. That reflects the importance I place on the grinder in this process.

    The other reason I'm suggestion this less expensive option is that I assume you haven't used an espresso machine before. With that in mind it would also be worth doing a home barista course (it would cost $300 or so). I did part 1 & 2 with Toby's Estate in Melbourne; it gave me a great head start and a reference point for making coffee. I highly recommend it.

    One other thing - if you get this equipment you will never use your Nespresso machine. There is only one factor I can think of that would mean you keep the Nespresso machine...

    Hope this helps!
    Thanks for the reply. Yes, I completely understand where you're coming from but I'm someone who's also spent a lot of money by taking things slowly only to find myself inevitably upgrading, only to then lose money. This is really why I'm looking at this price bracket, although I haven't completely decided yet.

    Great tip about the barista training! Thanks.

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  • Yelta
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    Something to contemplate with twin boiler machines is the fact that you have two boilers to maintain along with the extra plumbing and wiring, rightly or wrongly this became an important consideration when I was in the market for a new machine.

    Twin boilers sounded like a great idea until I thought it through and realised that with the extra boiler came extra complexity along with extra things to go wrong.

    I settled on a good quality single boiler machine and have not regretted it.
    Last edited by Yelta; 4 September 2013, 11:06 AM.

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