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  • TOK
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    Originally posted by MorganGT View Post
    Gee, I'd better ring my boss and tell him we will have to shut down the business.........
    Notice last line of my post "...Of course, others may differ and that is ok...." Notice also the line "...problems in the making...". If you can see them well and good, and if you cant, what are you servicing? In my experience clients don't generally bring machines because they decide it needs a service, they bring in a machine that has suffered some kind of breakdown, and then slip in the question about a "general service". That is when we as professional equipment repairers, can look to see if there may be a manifestation of any problems "in the making". And if there aren't, I guess we could always take the clients money to replace and lubricate stuff that may not need it. Most of what we do is repair or rectify legitimate faults. That's what we do....you can do whatever you like.

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  • MorganGT
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    Originally posted by TOK View Post
    You rectify problems, or problems in the making, you dont "service" an espresso machine
    Gee, I'd better ring my boss and tell him we will have to shut down the business........most of what I do is servicing machines. A service done properly involves replacing the perishable parts that do have a finite service life, as well as identifying and pre-emptively fixing 'problems in the making'. If serviced properly, a machine should never have a chance to cause a problem, as almost everything that is going to fail will be identified and fixed/replaced before it actually fails. And a good service will save money, as a properly done service involves things like spotting and fixing leaks before they have a chance to fry electrical components, and applying the correct amount of the correct lubricant to things like tap threads, as some machines (domestic and commercial) are woefully poorly lubricated at the factory, and as a result can wear so badly in regular use that the whole tap assembly can need replacing within the first year or two. As with a new car, most machines also require some sort of 'pre-delivery service' or commissioning, as most aren't 100% ready for use as they come out of the box.

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  • Tomahern
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    Thx for that Tok although, I didn't make it clear that I had asked for the two prices- a). To get her running again, and b). for a service aswell as I'm sure the machine hasn't ever been descaled, or maintained internally apart from me removing and blitzing the group head a dozen times in 7-8 yrs... Hot water from tea spout is never crystal clear and that's what got me thinking about the service I guess... And was hoping to get her back into tip top condition, but wasn't expecting such a big bill.

    re the San merino, yeah a one owner, he's made 50 coffees ish since new, 10 yrs ago .... But obviously I don't wanna part with my faithful bz99 to a lemon.... And the apparent 120' c initial pour from San merino puts me off... Cooling shots are a pain in the bum when you have a small unplumbed drip tray..

    I will search for info on control box costs, and fitting costs, or could I fit it? Best not! That's why I'm writing this!!!

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  • TOK
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    Jumping in.... its a much "better" machine.

    Me2 for TC post #2 with option 3.

    Always sus of those that recommend descaling at the drop of a hat. If the machine was operating properly before the elektrikill episode, then there is nothing to do other than rectify the elektrikill problem.

    It is usually a client that asks for a service or full service to which a reputable repairer will often reply.....what for? You rectify problems, or problems in the making, you dont "service" an espresso machine (unless you want to replace o rings or seals that havent failed yet and may not fail for a period of years, or clean a group shower or group electrovalve seat that is already clear), so I am very sus of a repairer that pushes "full services"....

    Of course, others may differ and that is ok.

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  • Tomahern
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    Can I ask why you reccomend keeping my bz99?

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  • TC
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    I think you'd be better off with the machine you currently have.

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  • Tomahern
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    Ok, will do... Is one machine better than the other? The San Marino was owned by my mate from new so a known good history.??? But I'm fond of my bz99.....

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  • TC
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    Option 3. Contact Bezzera Aust and find out the price of a control board. I'd seriously doubt that one costs half of what you have been quoted.

    The additional $$$ for the service sounds reasonable if a real descale is done.

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  • Tomahern
    started a topic Desperate for advise-my bz99 or San Marino compact???

    Desperate for advise-my bz99 or San Marino compact???

    Ok snobs... Preying for some knowledgable advise!! Here's the story..

    My desire for a good machine for home came from my 12 yrs plus barista experience, and the need for a "real coffee" at home....

    i have owned my bezzera bz99 for approx 7 yrs. apart from $100 being spent on it when I bought it second hand to get her running well, it has admittedly been faultless ever since. My drip tray (ABS plastic) had eventually cracked from heat and had leaked water onto the frame, and over a long period of time caused some fairly heavy rust, which I ground out and resprayed with hammerite. Not a bad job either!
    Putting back together the machine, all straight for reassemble apart from........ Forgetting the wiring order for the green extract on/off switch.. my guess of which of four went where....well I turn on the machine and go for the green switch, I want to say bang, but it was more of a loud pop....... Apols for my language ....F***ing bugger bugger f***inv bugger! Bad guess! And my stupidity has now fried something...

    So I take it in to get a quote to a local repairer that seems reputable... Two prices;
    - $650 for a new control box inc labour etc.. But might need extra labour to set up control box. (???)
    or
    - $875 with control box replacement/repair, and a FULL service including descaling, which would be needed I'm sure!

    I want to think they're over charging because I don't want to accept my stupidity costs this much.... But know these prices may be accurate, what do u think????

    This is where the San Marino comes in... It's been offered to me second hand from someone I know well, for $1000.00 which I might be able to get down to 800-850.... In good working order with plumbing adapter, full stainless model with auto extraction single and double shot, and I was behind a San merino for 4 yrs at 10kg/ day - reliable - yup..

    What do I do??



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