New Sunbeam Torino triple thermoblock

[buderim11]

I have been using the Torino for a few days with the OPV mod and I am getting good pours from it , but I dont think they are any better than my EM7000 , but maybe the extra thermoblock and the better brew temp control may make it more consistent.

All up I am in two minds whether to keep it or not as I have a soft spot for my Em7000. My wife and daughter like the look of the Torino .... but they dont make coffee and it does make my NS Mythos grinder look less bulky next to it .

One of the things that I am not happy with is the excessive steam and water from the grouphead running back to the driptray when the machine is heating up. I dont know if it is possible to add a non return valve or something to stop it happening .

I will give it a few more weeks and see how it goes.

[level3ninja]

You'll want 9bar at the group head, depending on the pipework between the OPV and the group head it may need to be set to around 10bar

[buderim11]

Well I fitted the Breville opv today and it went well , thanks to the excellent instructions from Noidle , it was a bit fiddly fitting a T piece to the steam pump feed as I only took the side covers off and it is a short pipe.

The Breville opv is set at 9 bar , is that the correct pressure for a Sunbeam ? or do I need to adjust it .

[buderim11]

I did a full clean and a descale by following the manual , But on the descale cycle it only appears to clean the steam wand as no water comes out of the grouphead .

On the coffee system cleaning cycle no descaler is used just cleaning tablets .

Is this a Sunbeam oversight as I thought descaling the coffee lines and coffee thermoblocks on a Sunbeam would be 100% necessary.

[noidle22]

Ahh , that makes sense we were looking at the Delongi part but it didnt fit, now I know why.

I know that you plumbed the Bypass valve into the drip tray waste , I was thinking of drilling a small hole where the baskets are stored and letting the Bypass valve water run back into the tank like a on a Gaggia classic , but I wasnt sure if this would be a problem when using the cleaning cycle that the dirty water would go back to the tank.

I actually saw the machine I did my review and mods to back for a repair a month or so ago for some water leaking problems. I was happy to see that my modifications were still working well and the leaks were elsewhere.

Whilst I had it open I rerouted the OPV return to the tank, through the steam pump tube using a T piece. I don't know why I didn't do it in the first place really.

There should be no dirty water that gets back to the tank, it's a separate system from the group head and group solenoid which is what the cleaning cycle uses.

[buderim11]

It's actually a DeLonghi part, an elbow used on solenoids on several of their machines. I had to file down some locating tabs on the lower part, you can sort of see the residue from this.
If your coffee guy does DeLonghi as well, ask him for a 90 degree elbow for a new style solenoid (non-threaded ports).

To get the panels off, you need to unscrew the four chromed caps on either side. There's screws hidden under them. Use a cloth to stop the tool from scratching the caps when you loosen them. I just use large pliers.
Once they're removed it's just down to removing all the screws you can find.

Ahh , that makes sense we were looking at the Delongi part but it didnt fit, now I know why.

I know that you plumbed the Bypass valve into the drip tray waste , I was thinking of drilling a small hole where the baskets are stored and letting the Bypass valve water run back into the tank like a on a Gaggia classic , but I wasnt sure if this would be a problem when using the cleaning cycle that the dirty water would go back to the tank.

[noidle22]

I picked up the Torino today and fortunately it is working great , the steam pressure even on 1 is a lot stronger than my Em7000 , being able to adjust the grouphead temp is handy as well it was set on 86c when I picked it up so I have set it to 92c I will see how it goes.

I bought the Breville bypass valve so I can add the OPV as noidle22 has very kindly described . I am having problems getting the black elbow as in the picture my local coffee parts place where I got the bypass valve from cant identify it . I would be grateful if anyone knows what it is from or even a part number.

My next task is to work out how to take the top and side panels off , any advice would be welcome.

It's actually a DeLonghi part, an elbow used on solenoids on several of their machines. I had to file down some locating tabs on the lower part, you can sort of see the residue from this.
If your coffee guy does DeLonghi as well, ask him for a 90 degree elbow for a new style solenoid (non-threaded ports).

To get the panels off, you need to unscrew the four chromed caps on either side. There's screws hidden under them. Use a cloth to stop the tool from scratching the caps when you loosen them. I just use large pliers.
Once they're removed it's just down to removing all the screws you can find.

[buderim11]

I picked up the Torino today and fortunately it is working great , the steam pressure even on 1 is a lot stronger than my Em7000 , being able to adjust the grouphead temp is handy as well it was set on 86c when I picked it up so I have set it to 92c I will see how it goes.

I bought the Breville bypass valve so I can add the OPV as noidle22 has very kindly described . I am having problems getting the black elbow as in the picture my local coffee parts place where I got the bypass valve from cant identify it . I would be grateful if anyone knows what it is from or even a part number.

My next task is to work out how to take the top and side panels off , any advice would be welcome.

[buderim11]

Does anyone know the part number for the Breville OPV ? I have been offered a working Torino for $300 , so I am temped buy it , but I wanted to see how much the OPV upgrade will cost me .

EDIT... I found one online it was called a Breville bypass valve thats why I couldnt see it when I searched for OPV ..

$12.95 SKU: SP0001676

[Jamola]

Quoting Noidle22:

I am disappointed that they have not fitted an OPV. It does not make sense why they haven't fitted one. Retrofitting a Breville OPV or any other inline OPV will not be difficult and will probably be something I do in the future.

The omission of the OPV is probably responsible for the reported variable shot quality from this machine. The only other machine I have experienced that did not have a OPV was Delonghi EC750i back in 2004 and could not make it work. All of the following sample have OPVs: Gaggia Classic. Rancillo Sivia, Sunbeam 6810 Beville DB ..etc.

If Sunbeam were serious and we know they are not they should recall all machines and fit the OPV IMHO.

Chris
Price seen at DJs April 8 2018 $1199

[Jimthebarrista]

Well done. I'm glad your heart ruled your head.

[Lootee]

Ah the snobbery, love it.

[goonba]

I have the sunbeam torino great machine my pressure gauge is half full of water how did this happen and how do I fix it

[goonba]

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Hi I bought a torino + grinder last xmas 2015 ($20k @ HN) and think its great,Im not quite a coffee snob but close enough, with adjustable settings and a flow meter I find it works well for me. I drink short blacks and can when required add the fluffy milk etc.
I was unable to purchase the cleaning tablets and it has come up with CLEAN so I used some powder and run the coffee clean and the steam clean however I can't clear the CLEAN stage, anyone else had this problem. Machine still works just comes up with CLEAN instead of READY. I have repeated the cleaning processes several times downloaded instructions as the manual wasn't that clear tried shutting off at the wall socket to no avail.
All suggestions welcome
Cheers G

Look on you tube there is a video on how to clean it follow exactly as it shows I had same problem the manual is crap not enough info it's the steam clean you have to do then it clears the display back to normal

[China]

You'd be better to buy a good preloved prosumer machine than a clapped out commercial which does not suit your requirements.

Keep an eye on Coffee Hardware For Sale for some good options.

Thank you for your advice.