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[ATTACH=CONFIG]15276[/ATTACH] Desicion made. Waiting till may or June when released. Sold my vbm to a friend in discussion yesterday. New machine will go well with my fausto.
This is also probably what I'm going for, but the Mozzafiato style instead. Would love to get the ECM Technika IV Profi/Switchable instead but it's too wide for my current kitchen :/ Rocket Evo R is 28 cm wide vs Technika's 32.5. Will await your and others' reviews
I honestly don't quite understand the desire to control steam power. My ECM (with levers) runs at 1.5bar, which is a bit higher than a Technika normally would, but I still wish I had more guts in it for more speed.
Fully agree with Al on this. The rotary valves on my Pro 500 have never been less than fully open when steaming.
Steam power is usually one of the top for reasons for upgrading, most people wanting more, not less.
See my post #30 re overthinking things
Best way to convince yourself that this will not be an issue would be to get into a store and try both machines. Plenty of site sponsers more than happy to help.
I honestly don't quite understand the desire to control steam power. My ECM (with levers) runs at 1.5bar, which is a bit higher than a Technika normally would, but I still wish I had more guts in it for more speed. Of course, that's my experience, but I'm doing what everyone want to do: make between 1 and 10 milk drinks. It's fine.
If you want to do less milk, same pressure, smaller jug. Find yourself a ~200-250ml jug and nail your technique for your piccolos.
I'm not convinced that a rotary valve would offer you any linear control of steam pressure. Give it a few months, and then you'll likely just resort to using full pressure.
But the Pro 500 will get you there if you're really keen on it.
If staining is really your biggest concern - cleaning glass is easy enough. Cleaning that ECM badge - much more of a pain in the ass. I was was wrestling with it myself today. If that's really the only thing dividing the machines, get the Pro 500 and your rotary valves.
.... I preferred the levers and after almost 6 months I certainly don't regret the decision, a simple flick and you have full steam, another and it's off.
Stu76, can you feather the pressure on the water or the steam. So if you want less pressure?
The ECM has cool touch wands, plus the sleeve/grip. I preferred the levers and after almost 6 months I certainly don't regret the decision, a simple flick and you have full steam, another and it's off.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]15265[/ATTACH] Next to each other. ECM looks great in person, but don't want levers.
When I was considering the ECM, I was given the option of swaping levers for knobs by the retailer at no cost. Would be worth asking if thats your preference.
Rocket gpp owner here since 2009. Its been rock solid no reason to upgrade unfortunately.
No issues with splashing due to drip tray design, i backflush with the tray in, maybe thats the secret.
After your questions regarding water stains on the Pro 500 gauges, I took particular notice of splashing when making my afternoon coffee today.
I'm happy to say that no water splashed on the gauges at all. The bit of splashing that occurred during back flushing was mostly on the lip just above the drip tray.
Mal
Good to hear. Sounds like it not a problem, I just thought it might be.
i reckon it probably between the profitec and the new rocket evo R.
I think the rocket is not available for a few months, so plenty of time to think about it.
How have the gauges gone, any water staining over time, from splashing or steam residue?
Hi again piccoloman.
After your questions regarding water stains on the Pro 500 gauges, I took particular notice of splashing when making my afternoon coffee today.
I'm happy to say that no water splashed on the gauges at all. The bit of splashing that occurred during back flushing was mostly on the lip just above the drip tray.
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