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    Hello

    I am about to buy a new espresso machine, but am I want one with a low heat up time.

    Are there any rocket machines that will heat up as fast as the Profitec 300 including heating up the steamboiler ?

    for example the
    Rocket appartemento

    Thanks

  • #2
    I wouldn't compromise your choice of machine based on heat up time. Just get a smart timer switch.

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    • #3
      As long as it uses e61 it will take at least 30mins to heat up properly.

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      • #4
        I was going to reply to this early this morning but didn't want to sound rude by doing so. But like mentioned above i wouldn't be compromising your choice of machines only on heat up time. There are many great machines available, most will take sometime to heat up. Another alternative is to get a timed switch to have it turn up at a set time or be able to turn it on at your own choice. Both types are available and there is plenty of information about this within Coffeesnobs.

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        • #5
          Pod machines are up to temp in a couple of minutes

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          • #6
            ... And 6910 / 7000's take 90 seconds. Personally I recommend a quick preflush to fully stabilise the temps before the first shot which takes it "up" to 2 minutes.

            FWIW, that is the main reason I rarely use my 2 group La Pavoni - 35 minutes @ 20 amps is a loooong delay (and a lot of power usage) when I only want 2 cuppas in the morning and another 2 late afternoon / early evening. Given no difference in the coffee (and I am very, very finicky with my cuppas) why would I fire up the La Pav at home?

            Cafe use / parties: My first preference - LM Linea every time for me as no domestic machine can sustain well over 100 shots an hour indefinitely. Real world figures: 3 group LM Linea - 403 shots in just under 3 hours at one of my friend's cafes and it didn't even quiver. Most days there top 700 shots and they are only open about 7 hours. Most other commercial machines probably cannot handle that workload either - my La Pav can barely do 75 an hour before (validly) complaining a little.

            You pays yur munney and you takes yur choice...

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            • #7
              Would the group handle be warm after two minutes though?

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              • #8
                If you leave it in with an empty basket while preflushing, yes absolutely.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
                  If you leave it in with an empty basket while preflushing, yes absolutely.
                  To be really picky, the handle itself should never get hot.

                  The portafilter body, and the basket will definitely heat up to temp using the process you mentioned.

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                  • #10
                    I usually drink espresso shots when I get home from work. Thats why I want it to heat up fast.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BeanGroupHead View Post
                      I usually drink espresso shots when I get home from work. Thats why I want it to heat up fast.
                      Get a WeMo switch that you can control from your smartphone.

                      You can switch your machine on when you're leaving the office or while you're still on the train home.

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                      • #12
                        +1 for pod machine. Of all the inconveniences that high quality espresso imparts on the home barista, warm up time is one of the most insignificant and easily overcome. If you can't deal with a 15-45 min warm up time then I can't imagine you getting fresh beans from roasters/cafes, training of some description, keeping it clean etc.

                        I don't like timers so just leave my machine on lots. I have a linea mini which heats up in 15 mins, my old la scala e61hx took 45-60mins to get up to full temp (typical for a e61 machine). $5-10 a month in power is worth it to me.

                        Do you really want to be bothered with all that or do you just want a coffee when you get home from work?

                        If you can be bothered and just really don't like waiting for it to warm up, then the breville dual boiler heats up really quickly and delivers pretty good coffee. I had one of those for a while but prefered the shots from my la scala.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for your answers. I will take it into consideration down at the shop : )

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                          • #14
                            You don't have to go as upmarket as the Wemo. I got a cheapy from Bunnings that has multiple possible settings for every day of the week. Still going strong after more than a year. Only negative with it is it's not instictive to program so don't lose the instructions.

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                            • #15
                              Lowest heat up times

                              The one I have is is from Bunnings. It looks like a wemo but is branded arlec.

                              It's very convenient being able to turn on machine when heading home!

                              Was 30 or 40 from memory.

                              Some E61 groups heat up more quickly. The Alex Duetto must have a higher therm siphon flow and I would guess it takes about 15 minutes to warm up.

                              Cheers
                              Last edited by artman; 19 August 2017, 11:02 AM. Reason: Added info

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