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  • ECM Mechanika V Slim

    ECMs new Mechanika slim has arrived.

    We have one on the bench now and it is a nice bit of gear.

    https://www.casaespresso.com.au/ecm-mechanika.html

    The "slim" essentially replaces the full size Mechanika in Australia. From now the full size version will be on special order only through the importer.

    This makes sense as it was often a confusing model line up with the Mechanika and Technika being almost the same machine previously.

    Nice and compact at only 25cm wide it joins the market occupied by the Rocket Appartmento and Izzo Vivi.

    Cheers

    Antony
    www.casaespresso.com.au
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  • #2
    Lovely. Shame they don't come with the lever valves.

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    • #3
      Good looking machine.

      Have to say I much prefer the rotary valves.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Yelta View Post
        Good looking machine.

        Have to say I much prefer the rotary valves.
        Looks wise you mean? I guess I agree on that front, but levers are sooo much easier to use.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
          Looks wise you mean? I guess I agree on that front, but levers are sooo much easier to use.
          You find turning a tap difficult?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Yelta View Post
            You find turning a tap difficult?
            No, but levers are just easier.

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            • #7
              Still 50/50 on the levers/taps option IMO.

              Yes the levers are nice to use , however in this case i believe ECM have gone with taps to differentiate the Slim from the Technika.

              Cheers

              Antony
              www.casaespresso.com.au

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                No, but levers are just easier.
                One mans poison they say, I find levers easier myself.

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                • #9
                  ECM Mechanika V Slim

                  To be fair my experience is fairly limited. I’ve only really used appliance level or relatively small coffee machines with fairly basic steam valve knobs that weren’t always in the best position. The one machine I’ve used with a lever type valve was my old Faema Due which had slide type levers. From my limited experience I preferred the levers, but if I was buying a new machine at the prosumer level I’d want to try a few options first for comparison.

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                  • #10
                    They really messed this one up It's too expensive. It's a glorified Rocket Appartamento, instead it's priced almost the same as a Technika Profi, at least here in Sweden. On the Technika you get rotary pump and possibility to plumb it. This machines makes no sense to buy except for those with really limited kitchen space - but then the much cheaper Appartamento makes more sense in that case!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tanax View Post
                      They really messed this one up It's too expensive. It's a glorified Rocket Appartamento, instead it's priced almost the same as a Technika Profi, at least here in Sweden. On the Technika you get rotary pump and possibility to plumb it. This machines makes no sense to buy except for those with really limited kitchen space - but then the much cheaper Appartamento makes more sense in that case!
                      I wouldn't agree with you here Tanax.

                      Maybe things are a bit different here in Australia with pricing.

                      In Australia the RRP on the models that compete against the new Mechanika are-
                      Appartmento $2699
                      Izzo Vivi $2899
                      Mechanika Slim $2960

                      Difference across the three on RRP $260. Of course street price is always different but RRP gives a good guide of the starting prices.

                      The Technika Rotary has an RRP of $3450 in Australia. That's $490 above the new Mechanika slim. A fair amount in my books.

                      Manufacturing costs of a "slim or compact" machine are not necessarily any less then the a standard full size. In addition I would suggest a two or three hundred dollar price difference between models in this price range is going to be justified by buyer preference over a brand name.

                      Cheers

                      Antony
                      www.casaespresso.com.au

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Casa Espresso View Post
                        I wouldn't agree with you here Tanax.

                        Maybe things are a bit different here in Australia with pricing.

                        In Australia the RRP on the models that compete against the new Mechanika are-
                        Appartmento $2699
                        Izzo Vivi $2899
                        Mechanika Slim $2960

                        Difference across the three on RRP $260. Of course street price is always different but RRP gives a good guide of the starting prices.

                        The Technika Rotary has an RRP of $3450 in Australia. That's $490 above the new Mechanika slim. A fair amount in my books.

                        Manufacturing costs of a "slim or compact" machine are not necessarily any less then the a standard full size. In addition I would suggest a two or three hundred dollar price difference between models in this price range is going to be justified by buyer preference over a brand name.

                        Cheers

                        Antony
                        www.casaespresso.com.au

                        Hi Anthony,

                        Yes, prices seem to indeed be quite different!
                        In Sweden, Appartamento is (the equivalent of) aprox. $2090 (AUD).
                        Mechanika V Slim is (the equivalent of) aprox. $2670 (AUD) whereas the Technika IV Profi is (the equivalent of) aprox. $2750 (AUD).

                        Difference between Mechanika and Technika is only $80 whereas the difference between Mechanika and Appartamento is a whopping $580. In this case, Mechanika makes no sense at all. If you're stepping up $580 from the Appartamento you might as well step up to the Technika and add another $80 to get a rotary pump and the ability to plumb it. And like I said, if you're short on kitchen space, those $580 difference from Appartamento only gets you stainless steel (insulated) boiler and a brew pressure gauge. Not sure if that's worth $580 :/

                        Marcus

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                        • #13
                          Hello Marcus,

                          That is a really interesting comparison on pricing.

                          Different markets, demands and sales volumes.

                          Agreed in Sweden the Appartmento looks to be great value and the Mechanika Slim looks overpriced compared to the Technika.

                          We have a new Mech Slim on our demo bench now, its every bit as good as the Appartmento on features and price (in Australia)

                          cheers

                          Antony
                          www.casaespresso.com.au

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Casa Espresso View Post
                            Hello Marcus,

                            That is a really interesting comparison on pricing.

                            Different markets, demands and sales volumes.

                            Agreed in Sweden the Appartmento looks to be great value and the Mechanika Slim looks overpriced compared to the Technika.

                            We have a new Mech Slim on our demo bench now, its every bit as good as the Appartmento on features and price (in Australia)

                            cheers

                            Antony
                            www.casaespresso.com.au
                            Kind of comparing apples with oranges.

                            I could list lots of major pricing disparities between Australia and the US, a bit pointless really, we live in countries half a world apart with big differences in population and politics.

                            Whilst it's nice to look longingly over the fence, the truth is most of us have to purchase in our own backyard.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Yelta View Post
                              Kind of comparing apples with oranges.

                              I could list lots of major pricing disparities between Australia and the US, a bit pointless really, we live in countries half a world apart with big differences in population and politics.

                              Whilst it's nice to look longingly over the fence, the truth is most of us have to purchase in our own backyard.
                              Agreed 100% Man from Yelta.

                              As an importer and distributor we get asked verbatim " but in the USA it is xx cheaper, in Europe it is xxx cheaper etc"

                              Australian certifications , modifications the importer does for Australia, freight (yes we are on the other side of the world) all seem to be forgotten by many people.

                              Cheers

                              Antony
                              www.casaespresso.conm.au

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